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Is it right that mares like Annie Power receive 7lbs in Championship races?

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    Of course when the likes of Dawn Run & Mysilv were doing their thing mares received 5lbs but this was increased to 7lbs in 2003/04.

    At the time BHB spokesman Alan Delmonte stated that the statistics show that mares win fewer races than could be expected given their representation.

    It would have been interesting to see those stats, for example did they take into account the mare’s probabilities of winning those races? Was just the winning horse relevant?

    It was interesting to hear BHA head of handicapping Phil Smith state yesterday that he believes that the mares allowance should be even bigger.

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    Couldn’t tell you the significance between 5 and 7 pounds when the animal itself weighs in at around 1200 pounds. If Ruby sticks with her to the inside, then it’s like getting a stone from others.
    Apart from that there aren’t many mares racing nowadays. It seems like Flakey Dove, Absaloms Lady and Brief Gale lived a few centuries ago.

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    It’s fair as females of any sex are weaker than males. Exactly the same reason why women jockeys should have a claim. It’s only political correctness and feminism that’s preventing it

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    It certainly looks like a daft rule in this case, where AP is already top-rated without her allowance.

    I’ve never paid much attention to these allowances; I assume they operate only in non-handicaps?

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    7 lbs is too much, should be 5.
    There are so many mares races these days they don’t run anywhere near as often against geldings in Championship races. It’s not that mares are not capable of top class form, it’s just not many mares are capable of it. ie It’s a less competitive genre because (as a percentage) there are fewer top class mares compared to the number of mares – than there is top class geldings compared to the number of geldings. Not surprising, because there are fewer bigger, well muscled mares; bigger, well muscled mares dominate their sex and can quite easily take on the geldings with a 5 lbs allowance. 7 lbs give them an unfair advantage imo.

    Flakey Dove would never have run run in the Champion Hurdle, let alone win it if run today. She’d be running later on in the day.
    We’d also be talking about the “Dawn Run” Mares Hurdle, as she’d have run up a sequence in it, never to step foot in the Champion Hurdle or Gold Cup. Shame!

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    It’s the horse’s hooves on the ground, not the jockeys. As long as a female jockey works out and has a strong physique (for a woman) – the sex of a jockey makes no difference to form.

    With Nina and Katie around… may be amateur male jockeys should get an allownce?
    It’s a shame those two didn’t give it a real go as professionals.

    When working out a race, I never take anything off a rating just because it’s being ridden by a woman. Neither do I add anything if a woman has been replaced by a man.

    Talk of women jockeys needing an allowance doesn’t do them any good, it reinforces the sexist attitudes of trainers and owners that women aren’t as good as men.

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