July 4, 2009 at 23:48 #11969dan de manParticipant
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seems to be alot more trouble and court cases in british racing than ireland and any where else or maybe they are better at finding things outJuly 5, 2009 at 00:58 #237875davidbradyMember
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Eh ………………….. what!July 5, 2009 at 01:04 #237877CavParticipant
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NO.July 5, 2009 at 02:49 #237897
This has to be a fishing expedition: Lol!July 5, 2009 at 03:35 #237906no ideaMember
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No, I just do not think anybody else bothers.
LOLJuly 5, 2009 at 10:58 #237917dan de manParticipant
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not fishing just wanted to get peoples view just seems alot more things going on over the water dont want a them and us debate and whos this jakxcuinor poster i dont understand a wordJuly 5, 2009 at 12:00 #237921
I cover Irish racing principally at present and in a professional capacity, having covered British racing for most of my life.
Irish jumps racing is about where British racing was 20+ years ago in my view (Irish Flat racing is significantly better but not perfect).
I have brought what I regard as serious transgressions of the non-trier rule to the Irish authorities’ attention on several occasions in the last two years and their response has been totally inadequate in my opinion.
In contrast, on the few occasions I have brought similar instances to the attention of the BHA they have at least given the impression that they give a damn.
More to the point, they have actively sought to clean the game up of their own accord.
The absence of activity on this matter in Ireland should not be assumed to indicate that activity is not called for.July 5, 2009 at 14:46 #237942mulls74Participant
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I wonder if the number of non-triers in Irish jumps racing has anything to do with the way the handicapper seems to work. Horses are regularly put up 10lb+ for narrow wins in poor races and even modest placed form seems to result in a large rise in the handicap.
The rises in the weights for wins/places seem a lot higher than in the UK.July 5, 2009 at 17:32 #237980yorkshirepuddingMember
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The prize money is better, they need too sort Down Royal out.
They are suffering from the same problem did before Lagudaire appeared (you see mare stakes run away from the paris tracks as a result of him), the best racing is around the Dublin tracks, IE Leopards Town and The Curragh.
I have seen allot of horses ridden like non triers in NH races in ireland and is annoys me, in England the stewards would be feeling the collars of connections.
The UK and Ireland horse population are one and the same, frankly I would like an Anglo Irish Turf club with a smialr reward system for locally bred (IE GB and IRE) horses, a system modeled on the French one.
The currant yearling bonus system is a ****,the French system rewards the owners and the breeders so the money gets curcalted, the agents get more cash and people want too buy locally bred horses becuse of the premiums.
Look at Once Upon A Cat on France Gallop, she is a french assiumlate (a horse though born abroad get accepted as a horse was raised in France and allowed into the french breeding program), , no world beater but a three time winner and a useful twelve furlong handicaper, look at how much her owner and breeder picked in premiums. compared too the currant IRE/GB system you can see why people race their….July 7, 2009 at 20:15 #238352ratpackMember
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A fellow dissenter of the current establishment.July 7, 2009 at 20:52 #238354
Yes, I read that earlier today.
I have to say that I think Brian O’Connor’s blogs are among the very best going.
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