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  • #24191
    stilvi
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    Prompted by an article from Lee Mottershead in today’s Post. Perhaps it is me but he almost seems to be relishing the idea of ATR losing the rights to RUK. Strange as he and several of his colleagues have earned a copper or two from appearances on ATR. Then again Mottershead has always struck me as the street urchin with aspirations to the top table.

    Why would the Irish want to ditch ATR? They have done a terrific job of promoting Irish racing and continue to do so.

    From a viewer’s perspective the bottom line is you want to be able to view as much of the racing as possible with no split screens. Any transfer would inevitably lead to a price increase – leaving aside those immune to any recession you would have to be crazy to want to pay more for a service that is already very good and costs no more than a basic package. Add to that the excellent free replay service.

    Apparantly, the RUK offer is in partnership with Setanta. Didn’t they create a pay Channel, take a pot of Premiership games and then disappear as fast as they arrived? A really solid track record!

    Hopefully, this is just Mottershead filling a page and the Irish authorities will put sense ahead of greed and maintain the current association with ATR.

    #441659
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    As a former RUK subscriber (long time ago), I received a postal survey from them about two weeks ago.

    One of the questions asked whether I would be in favour of RUK being divided into two channels (RUK1 and RUK2), which would facilitate coverage of multiple races without the split-screen. It is an interesting idea considering how they are amassing the racecourses so rapidly.

    #441660
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    I received the same, and yes it’s a good, rather obvious and overdue idea that’s been mooted here on TRF in the past

    If memory serves, RUK had a second channel for a while covering French, US and wherever else racing

    There’s little to no collaboration between the Irish and UK racing authorities regarding off-times so split screens are the norm; therefore a dedicated Irish channel should be welcomed, though if I were to subscribe I’d want a choice of package – the UK channel at the current price, not both at an inflated price

    #441676
    steveh31
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    Racing UK have always wanted everything then drop it South African, American if they get Irish they will not stick with it and it will fall out of favour.

    ATR must keep Irish racing to keep horse racing free to air if they get it the competition commission needs to investigate the monopoly they will have.

    #441679
    andyod
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    At the Races is the only racing channel available to the American viewers so please don’t sell to Racing UK. How can an American owner watch his horses running in Ireland if Racing UK takes over?

    #441703
    steveh31
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    I received the same, and yes it’s a good, rather obvious and overdue idea that’s been mooted here on TRF in the past

    If memory serves, RUK had a second channel for a while covering French, US and wherever else racing

    There’s little to no collaboration between the Irish and UK racing authorities regarding off-times so split screens are the norm; therefore a dedicated Irish channel should be welcomed, though if I were to subscribe I’d want a choice of package – the UK channel at the current price, not both at an inflated price

    If ATR was forced to close because of this Racing UK could charge you or anyone whatever they liked there has to be competition in the market one company cannot go around buying everything and getting rid of all the competition the tv rights fiasco between both channels should have been looked at years ago.

    How can the Jockey Club be allowed to give it’s own courses to it’s own channel without an eyelid been battered?

    In football even the mighty Man U, Man C and Chelsea cannot give their tv rights to themselves they are sold in packages maybe it’s time the horse racing rights were sold in packages to both channels and any other that wants to bid.

    Also more importantly what’s to stop the owners of ARC and the Reuben Brothers saying right you have forced us off air we are going to sell all our courses to developers.

    #441704
    Avatar photoGodolphinArabian
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    They will be after Doncaster next.. they already took ascot if Irish racing was gone ATR would die with out a doubt racinguk will charge what they want DISGRACEFUL.

    #441705
    steveh31
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    They will be after Doncaster next.. they already took ascot if Irish racing was gone ATR would die with out a doubt racinguk will charge what they want DISGRACEFUL.

    Doncaster is leased by Arena and after the court case of getting the rights of RUK I cannot see it going back unless there is only one option plus all UK tv rights to courses are now settled until 2018.

    ATR could end up like the old Racing Channel I never understood why Arena and Sky didn’t either set up some new racecourses in competiton with the big ones or upgrade current ones and put some audience drawing meetings on create some new races instead of sitting there going "Well nothing we can do at least we have Southwell today."

    #441714
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    Seems ultra strange to me why and if Irish racing would ditch ATR , but if they do…and its a big if for me , it would be the end for the dross Channel

    Cant see it happening though!!

    imo

    Ricky

    #441720
    % MAN
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    How can the Jockey Club be allowed to give it’s own courses to it’s own channel without an eyelid been battered?

    Arena do the same with their courses and ATR – what’s the diference?

    #441727
    steveh31
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    How can the Jockey Club be allowed to give it’s own courses to it’s own channel without an eyelid been battered?

    Arena do the same with their courses and ATR – what’s the diference?

    You really think Arena wouldn’t sell the rights to Southwell or Lingfield if the Jockey Club would sell them rights to Cheltenham or Newmarket.

    Racing UK has too much dominance in the big races and racecourses it has an unfair advantage.

    No other channel ever has a chance of getting non terrestrial rights to the big courses which cannot be right.

    #443994
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    Looks like ATR are keeping it:

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … t7DaysNews

    Frankly I don’t think RUK could give enough coverage for the Irish, they already have a lot of meetings they broadcast. I suspect RUK might have cherry-picked the top meetings and not bothered with the rest as they wouldn’t have had time or opportunity to show them properly.

    #443996
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    Probably the right result for the dross channel , good luck to them , Chapman can relax , he will be idiotic on screen for quite some time yet !!!!

    imo

    Ricky

    #444004
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    Best choice to keep the racing on ATR and agree that RUK wouldn’t give airtime to the minor meetings as they wouldn’t have time in their schedules.

    I’m secretly beginning to like Matt Chapman, compared to the boring and wooden people on C4 he brings a bit of life to the sport.

    #444047
    steveh31
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    Looks like ATR are keeping it:

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … t7DaysNews

    Frankly I don’t think RUK could give enough coverage for the Irish, they already have a lot of meetings they broadcast. I suspect RUK might have cherry-picked the top meetings and not bothered with the rest as they wouldn’t have had time or opportunity to show them properly.

    To be fair look at how RUK treated South African and American everything they seem to try they drop quickly at least ATR try to show Irish as much as possible but poor Down Royal seem to lose out every Bank Holiday when it’s a packed fixture schedule.

    It appears from the last paragraph the RP don’t consider Doncaster a premier track. :x

    #444062
    Avatar photophil walker
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    It appears from the last paragraph the RP don’t consider Doncaster a premier track. :x

    Who does? :wink: :lol:

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