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- June 21, 2021 at 11:16 #1547111
Looking at the Irish Derby, 68 horses, 34 entries by A P O’Brien. P Power showing High Definition EV Fav.
Hurricane Lane 7/2 Mojo Star and Mac Swiney 6/1, bringing the Derby form.
The Curragh galloping track with 3 furlongs run-in slightly uphill, according to Timeform, should suit the Fav. Does the fact he’s clear fav ahead of Derby field tell us derby form iffy?.June 21, 2021 at 12:58 #1547125What price do they have for the Derby winner? As far as I can see he is one of the 68 entered, though I don’t think Mojo Star is.
High Definition was well supported for the Derby before being withdrawn so don’t think it’s surprising he’s popular here, especially given his connections.
June 21, 2021 at 13:46 #1547132I believe adayar is being aimed at the King George from what I read
June 22, 2021 at 09:20 #1547266S Stars, I’ve seen since writing a post-Mojo may not run, FF interesting if Adayar goes for King George, along with the eclipse usually gives us a good idea regarding 3-year-olds against elders.
June 22, 2021 at 13:51 #1547289Mojo Star been supplemented, Bolshoi Ballet taken out.
June 22, 2021 at 15:17 #1547306If Lone Eagle was given an easy lead id think he will take some pegging back on a track that suits front runners
Only problem is there will surely be a couple of obrein horses sacrificed to set it up for high definition to fly late
June 24, 2021 at 18:47 #1547628High Definition 2-1
June 25, 2021 at 21:51 #1547783I like Wordsworth and have backed him each way. Looking at the top 3 places in this race from the past 10 or 15 years you need a) an AOB horse b) that stays, not necessarily an ultra classy superstar.
This horse is a stuffy looking sort who might have taken a few runs to get fully fit.
June 25, 2021 at 21:54 #1547784Think he needs 3m4f not 1m4f green
Looked an absolute boat in the queen’s vase
June 26, 2021 at 08:09 #1547815519181-414
MacSwiney
Has won every other race he has run in.
He is due a massive run today.
High definition cost his supporters millions when the favourite didnt turn up for Epsom. It may be that he simply wasnt good enough. They will go back to the well again and try and recoup their losses on a very short priced horse. The ratings put Jim Bolgers horse clear at 118. Another stable and he’d be 120.
That is shown up markedly by ratings given to over rated over hyped horses who have badly flopped in the big races this year.
Most of his wins have been on soft/ heavy but that is circumstantial. His maiden win was on good ground, when he beat Bolshoi Ballet.
losewinlosewinlosewinlosewinlose… sequence says win…..
HD really should win today with everything in his favour but Mac Swiney has a massive chance here and 8/1 maybe bigger represents decent each way value perhaps in a double e/w with the french newcomer Marbling for Ger Lyons who I note Colin Keane has got off one to ride.June 26, 2021 at 11:18 #1547872Given mac swineys profile sam I’m surprised he’s even running
He needs it bottomless to give his best
June 26, 2021 at 11:21 #1547874I’ve done a rain dance so no problem!
They ( may) have given the ground plenty of water so may be better than expected. Certainly watering was mooted during the week.June 26, 2021 at 11:34 #1547885Hurricane Lane all the way for me
June 26, 2021 at 12:42 #1547905Taken 9/4 against High Definition.
Wordsworth has run his best races here and was only just behind High Definition when he won his maiden. I could see him hitting the frame but he needs to leave the Ascot run behind.
June 26, 2021 at 13:43 #1547930Not a race I’ll get involved in betting wise, but Hurricane Lane ran a decent race at Epsom having beaten High Definition previously and looks solid enough at 5/1.
June 26, 2021 at 13:54 #1547932Can make a case for plenty of these
Meade made it clear enough he sees Lone Eagle’s end game the Leger so have backed him for that in the hope he can run well enough today to cement his position in the market.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
June 26, 2021 at 14:00 #1547933Got to take the fav on , I prefer Wordsworth , he was fav to beat High Defintion first time out , I think it’s telling he,s running here so soon after Ascot , I reckon he,s a good e.w bet
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