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    zilzal
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    Latest forecast suggests Leopardstown will ride genuinely good on Saturday.

    Is it simply a question of Economics 11/10?

    Can Augusts Rodin carve his way to 5/2 victory?

    Will the City of Angels soar to success at 5/1

    Or just possibly a dark horse?

    #1706808
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
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    Looking forward to Economics in Group 1 company at last so will be an interesting watch.

    The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.

    #1706908
    Mike007
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    Economics is 6-1 for the Irish Champion/Ascot Champion Stakes double so taken some of that rather than the short price tomorrow coz my thinking is if he wins tomorrow he should win at Ascot.

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    silent assassins
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    The right way to go mike

    #1707460
    zilzal
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    Warm windy and sunny so we may be heading to the fast side of good certainly by big race time 3.25
    Watch out for the race time in the 1.10.

    #1707516
    nwalton
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    what a great race well done backers, thats why we love this sport

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Don’t care a bit about the first two home, but what a huge run from the Japanese raider. With more experience on both sides there is only one winner.

    Still well done to the first two of course…..

    #1707518
    LD73
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    Brave winner but Shin Emperor should have won that, his jockey got totally out maneuvered and boxed in at a vital stage. He will be a player in the Arc

    #1707519
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    Los Angeles ran like a horse that needs to go further. If only there had been a suitable race today…

    #1707520
    Mike007
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    Not sure Shin Emporer was unlucky. He only switched once he got outpaced then ran on a bit when switching looks like he needed 12f. Same as Los Angeles. Economics was wide the whole way and still held them all off.

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    “He will be a player in the Arc”

    Agree, but only with a jockey who knows the track well.

    #1707523
    Mike007
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    “He will be a player in the Arc”

    Not when the inevitable rain comes ;o)

    #1707527
    LD73
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    Mike – when Economics moved up past him down the back he shut him in for the rest of the way round until well into the home straight, that meant he had to wait and then AR came past and he didn’t get out with enough time to really get rolling.

    Ruby – Agreed, but I am not sure they will change jockeys, today was the 3rd straight race Ryusei Sakai has ridden him so I doubt they will change now and even if they did you would have to wonder just who would be a big enough name that is available for them to switch to. To me Longchamp is not quite as tricky a course to ride first time as Leopardstown is.

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    To date he has never run on anything other than good to firm so we simply don’t know how he would cope if it came up Longchamp soft or heavy.

    But with that being said, he is by Siyouni who’s progeny do go on softer ground but more importantly, he is a full brother to the 2020 Arc winner Sottsass which was a race run on officially heavy ground (he was also placed in another Arc on very soft ground and won two races on soft).

    Could he be the atypical Japanese horse that will actually act on soft ground? :unsure:

    #1707534
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    Agree with that, LD. Longchamp should be easier to handle and the trip could suit better.
    As Mike pointed out, the rain arrives quite often on an October Sunday at Longchamp, but if he’s still double digits for the Arc, that would be okay for a small bet.

    #1707535
    LD73
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    Back to the winner – fair play to Haggas for sticking to his guns and going the softly softly route with him through the summer and side stepping the Derby and also to the owners for going along with the plan.

    #1707536
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    True, he was very well campaigned. I’m quite sure he’ll stay in training for one more season and might only run in the British Champion Stakes this year.

    Even though he’s entered for the Arc, Haggas won’t send his there as a three year old unraced over 1m4f.

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