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I do think thats about right to be fair Fist – but the talking horse still needs to confirm our suspicions with the French raider, and as such CC will be no value at Ascot.
As you say, he will perhaps be a warm order jolly against an unbeaten Guineas winner who beat him cosily at HQ.
I’m not sold on Makfi being some sort of wonder horse……..One hit wonder perhaps? but that was a different horse we saw today than we saw at Newmarket.
Be amazed if either Mafki or Dick Turpin get anyhwere near him if they meet again.
Fully agree. Any lingering uncertainties I had of Canford Cliffs staying the mile have all been quashed now (I feel like a right plonker for even doubting it!). It was an eye-poppingly easy win and he’s the real deal. I too can’t see Makfi beating this beast again.
For blinding speed and acceleration, he reminded me of the temperamental Three Valleys winning the Coventry, sprinting clear by eight lengths. That was beath-taking, too.
Makfi is no wonder horse or a Sea The Stars but people must remember this is a horse who pretty much walked past Canford Cliffs, not this is a bad statement agains Canford Cliffs just with Dick Turpin being solid again most horses Makfi beat they are making his form the more solid.
Compare the TOTE to the Industry prices at Newmarket there were a lot of people knew how good Makfi was.
It would be folly to dismiss an unbeaten Guineas winner who won with such authority. Makfi did it very well that day and displayed all the attributes of a very good horse. He travelled supremely well and when asked to go and win the race, he did so impressively.
In the wake of yesterdays demolition, let’s not forget that Canford Cliffs still has a couple of lengths to find with Makfi and that margin was not diminishing in the final furlong at Newmarket – he was well held by the winner.
Whilst Canford Cliffs is considered the superior of Dick Turpin at the Hannon yard, let’s not forget, also, that the score between the pair is two-nil in favour of the dual Guineas runner-up.
It was reported that Canford Cliffs was showing much improved work at home prior to yesterdays race, so perhaps what we witnessed was the ‘real deal’ and supporters of the colt have every right to feel confident about the placings being reversed in future contests.
I was fairly confident that Canford Cliffs would win yesterday. Everything was in his favour and the forecast fast pace was always going to suit.
The St James’ Palace Stakes will be a different kind of test. Canford Cliffs gives the impression – with his high cruising speed and electric turn of foot – that he may be at his most effective on a straight course, which he will not have at Ascot for the 3YO contest.
Looking at the current field for that event, even at this early stage, there doesn’t appear to be anything to worry the aforementioned trio. Perhaps Siyouni can bounce back (it’s fair to put a line through his effort last weekend) and if the ‘real’ Arcano turns up he’d have a shout, but the dangers are coming up short.
I would take a chance on Dick Turpin if the price was right. Canford Cliffs should beat up on the older horses and collect an extra £100,000-plus in the Golden Jubilee.
That race would do more to emphasize just how good he is and would be a much bolder choice.
Whilst it is foolish indeed to dismiss Makfi,it appears that Canford Cliffs’ constitution is getting stronger at a great rate of knots since his third place in the 2000 Guineas. This I believe, combined with his natural raw talent, will make him the better horse as the season progresses.
not sure about being no value at ascot. if makfi runs against CC there, you should get an ok price. one id rather have than if makfi wasnt running!
On the evidence from the track we must assume that Makfi is the superior horse. Nice to have such wonderful horses to entertain us during the summer;Lope de vega,makfi, dick turpin and canford cliffs,sounds good.
I wonder if Canford Cliffs, like some other horses, only comes into his own after a spell of sunshine; just likes a little sun on his back.
The team were absolutely convinced that he was a different horse – more like the 2-year old who won the Coventry so spectacularly, and it proved to be a good tip.
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Richard Hannon did say (Saturday morning’s RP) that Canford Cliffs didn’t act down the hill into the dip at Newmarket. Given subsequent events, I’d be inclined to believe him.
Yes, I remember reading that now. I think it was Hughes who said that he seemed to ‘thrown’ by the undulations and briefly slowed down. But I believe they still thought he was a different horse now, as well.
I think i agree, but – he also has just won a race in which the two who beat him fair and square in THE guineas didn’t participate.
Gun to head i fancy CC as the best 3yo miler, but the proof is not even recipied never mind being in the pudding.
Makfi will undoubtably be the better value of the two at Ascot, column inches and the nature to back English / Irish horses tell you that. CC is favourite for the SJP – apart from believing connections and ignoring the form book, why?
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Maybe because Xtension and Fencing Master finished considerably further behind Canford Cliffs than they did behind Makfi?
Viscount Nelson finished closer, but then he was very slowly away at Newmarket, and never put into the race.I’d call that cherry-picking also-rans myself, which is rarely much more than a waste of time, but thats just my opinion.
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Hardly cherry-picking, PC. The running of the 4 horses common to both races is the only direct formline we have, to compare the standard of each contest.
Fwiw, I’d consider Makfi an above average Guineas winner, though Canford Cliffs might just prove nearly as special as the Hannons have been saying.- Total Posts 17716
Corals go 7/4 Canford, 2/1 Makfi, 5/1 Dick Turpin & Steinbeck – prices you wouldn’t want to be betting ante-post at, though, on the day, I’d certainly be backing Canford Cliffs if he remained in the same area.
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