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Irish 2000 Guineas 2010

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  • #296111
    moehat
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    Is there a draw bias if it’s run on the round course?

    #296113
    prospero
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    This race is run on the straight track every year.

    #296117
    matrix
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    Does anyone have figures for what the overall betfair turnover and tote turnover was on the Irish guineas last year or over the previous few years.

    They dont seem to be listed online

    #296119
    newyork
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    When htn beat new approach the race was run on the round course,when cockney rebel won again the race was run on the round course

    #296121
    andyod
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    Just as I feared, Steinbeck is not certain to run according to Aidan.Interestingly he did not give a reason.

    #296128
    colinf
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    All races up to a mile at the Curragh are always ran on the straight track …. there is a slight dog-leg after a furlong. The 2000 Guineas has never been ran over the round course. Canford Cliffs and Extension have the classic appearance of horses that were trained for Newmarket, fell short and now stump up at the Curragh. Both have possible stamina issues also. Fencing Master a confident choice to improve past both.

    #296138
    andyod
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    If JanVermeer goes in the Guineas he goes to Epsom, otherwise he goes to France.So Aidan said last week.

    #296139
    colinf
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    If Steinbeck runs then JV might go for the 10f Group 3 on Sunday …. if he doesn’t then its most probably the 2000.

    #296141
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    I’ve got Jan Vermeer for the Derby, has AOB said he is running in the guineas?

    #296144
    Avatar photowallace-no7
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    Some unreal racing at the Curragh. Every race is looking top Class

    Cutlass Bay vs Fame and Glory vs Chinese White in the Tatts. Class!!!

    #296155
    brendanr
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    Chinese White? This is strictly a match between F&G and Cutlass Bay. CB is the class act and should cruise here. The only thing that tempers my enthusiasm for this horse is the recent switch from Fabre to Zarooni. Hopefully Frankie takes the ride.

    #296156
    andyod
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    Aidan said JanVermeer will go to the french derby without a preliminary race or to the Derby with a preliminary race. So if he runs on the weekend he goes to Epsom. Does that make sense?

    #296157
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    Jan Vermeer is not a Epsom Horse.

    He is a huge chunky animal. Massive hind quarters. Can’t see him handling that turn and that camber. He could well be a superstar but jeez i be astonished if a horse that big could negotiate at Epsom.

    France is smart…also the ground has to be a worry for me if it was rock solid firm aswell. No need to run him when they got the Top 3 in the Market.

    #296158
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    Cutlass Bay should win this race. Like their will be simply no excuses if he loses. Everything is in his favour…Ground/Trip/Form.

    Steinbeck runs according to a Irish Times Yesterday.

    #296169
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Aidan said JanVermeer will go to the french derby without a preliminary race or to the Derby with a preliminary race. So if he runs on the weekend he goes to Epsom. Does that make sense?

    Thank Your sir!

    #296177
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    How did Xtension run poorly – He was a good fourth and he proabaly needed the run.

    I can’t possibly imagine how he’d have needed the run given that he’s in the care of a small time trainer who was very confident beforehand.

    Fencing Master is nailed on for this race.

    #296186
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    All races up to a mile at the Curragh are always ran on the straight track …. there is a slight dog-leg after a furlong. The 2000 Guineas has never been ran over the round course.

    That is correct.

    The ‘straight’ mile that they use for the Guineas starts down near the railway line and curves to the right before the intersection with the round course.

    The draw is rarely that big of a factor on decent ground. They usually come up the stands rail where it tends to drain that bit better when it’s testing.

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