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The thing to recall about Arakan is that 2009 was his first crop of 2 year olds. AWD figures are always artificially low at this stage in a sire’s record.
Arakan (USA) br h 2000 Nureyev (USA) b 1977 8.1 Northern Dancer (CAN) b 1961 10.5
Special (USA) b 1969
Far Across b 1996 Common Grounds b 1985 8.0
City Ex 1986Yes Arakan was a 7f specialist in running (up to G3 level and 2 wins at York) but DT has already trumped his sire’s record in terms of class. That suggests to me the bloodline is complex.
Before I leave Arakan, we can see from the pedigree above that a Nureyev/Common Grounds cross is perhaps likely to produce a 7f performer. What we don’t see is the heavy doses of stamina from grandam City Ex’s sire Ardross and damsire The Minstrel. If you wish to believe Arakan can produce horses who stay further than he did himself that’s where you’d be looking.
Dick Turpin’s dam Merrily is by Sharrood (11.0) so some hope in that awd figure. The 2nd damsire So Blessed was a sprinter and all speed on the male line. Some stamina on the dam’s side though including Arc winner Djebel. No official AWD figure for So Blessed. (I do have an old record with an AWD of 11.3! for So Blessed but wouldn’t want to rely on it).
Going back to 3rd, 4th, 5th damsires, there’s Charlottesville (French Derby), Vilmorin (damsire of Queens Hussar) and Mon Talisman (1927 Arc) so a fair weight of middle distance sturdiness in the female tail.
Can Dick Turpin be as good at 1m2f as at a mile? I wouldn’t discount the possibility. Would I bet on it?, today, against a strong field of older horses many of whom stay middle distances? I don’t think I would.
As Hannon says, Dick Turpin stays in training next year. My guess would be that he’ll have a better chance of staying 1m2f as a four year old. Not totally out of the question for today though.
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BOOM!!
Rip Van WInkle is the best!!
I love you rip
Absolutely delighted for Rip! He was the one I wanted to win. Didn’t back anything so a joy to watch!
Well done those who kept the faith.
Brilliant race.
Well done indeed the Rip and connections on being so patient with him….. and the race certainly lived up to its billing.
I didn’t bet but Byword’s jockey didn’t look to have too many weapons in his armoury……..looked like he would ride the same finish almost regardless of winning losing or whatever else was happening………a triumph (not) of style where strength might have been more effective on a horse who seemed to be enjoying Tiwce Over’s company a bit too much.
Absolutely delighted for Rip! He was the one I wanted to win. Didn’t back anything so a joy to watch!
Well done those who kept the faith.
Brilliant race.
I’d backed Lake Ontario and Midas Touch in the previous races and was somewhat umming and arring about O’Brien/Murtagh, pleased I kept the faith
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Perfect result and great to see RVW back!
Excellent from Twice Over who would have been happier on faster ground.
Footnote: never trust a Highwayman
Yeah well, the owner has paid £50,000 to find out that the trainer should have run him in the Jacques le Marois.
Excellent from Twice Over who would have been happier on faster ground.
Really? I thought that Henry said that he would prefer some give for him?
The mass of improvement appears to be a myth…
good race all the same and HQ should be fun!
Yeah well, the owner has paid £50,000 to find out that the trainer should have run him in the Jacques le Marois.
They were always going to try him over 10f – missing the race today – would have just saved them the money!
Which isn’t ours I may add!
The race he was to run in at Deauville was over 10 where he’d of carried a penalty in the mud!
Thanks Aidan
Yeah! – For telling us last time that he was a bloater!
Had he of not told us what then?…
Information – Information – Information!
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Sad to see those who had not the courage to back him whining.
No one has moaned. Must of got the wrong thread.
Good race. I thought he wasn’t gonna get there, then he stepped up a gear out of nowhere.
Thought Joshua Tree ran a good’un in the 1m4f race (backed him each-way at 16’s).
Yeah, I’m about the only one whining, and my whining has got nothing at all to do with Rip Van Winkle, and I was whining about the owner having to pay a £50,000 supplementary fee before the race as well.
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Yeah, I’m about the only one whining, and my whining has got nothing at all to do with Rip Van Winkle, and I was whining about the owner having to pay a £50,000 supplementary fee before the race as well.
You’re right to.
The owners are getting left with Canford and Paco’s left overs. Any other trainer and he’d be going the same route Canford has.
Nice of the sponsors to provide the pacemakers for Ballydoyle, I think the race was setup for Rip. If Tom Queally could ride that race again he would, I thought Twice Over pulled himself up when he went past Byword. I reckon O’Brien should rethink his arc plans, Rip should be given another chance at 12f, he did run so well in the Derby last year.
JohnJ
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