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  • #354913
    oddson
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    Post mortems are always carried out on horses that die at a race track as with the Newbury two.
    Should you wish to see the full charges & possible penalties follow this link:-
    https://www.britishhorseracing.presscen … S-1ac.aspx

    #354936
    Avatar photothisthatandtother
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    It’s an awful thing that is alleged. What I don’t understand is why Graham and Andrea Wylie continue to let him train their horses, I wouldn’t let him within an ass’s roar of any I had :shock:

    #354964
    360 degrees
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    The Sporting Life has an interesting word next to JHJ’s photo on this web-page:

    http://horses.sportinglife.com/Trainer_Profile/0,12487,340,00.html

    #354965
    360 degrees
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    On the subject of this man, did police ever find the people he said had robbed him & his wife of £100,000 cash – at gun-point? A very serious crime.

    #354974
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Haha….very good spot their Re: Sportinglife.

    #354975
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    One newspaper reporting that the investigation into Jockey is now over and no charge…… :roll: :roll: :roll:

    #354979
    Roseblossom
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    Post mortems are always carried out on horses that die at a race track as with the Newbury two.
    Should you wish to see the full charges & possible penalties follow this link:-
    https://www.britishhorseracing.presscen … S-1ac.aspx

    Yes, I read that at the time. However if you read the BHA Rules of Racing they state:

    a Veterinary Officer

    may

    order a post mortem examination of any horse which dies, or is humanely destroyed as a result of an injury or accident occurring, on any Racecourse Property.

    This implies it’s a discretionary process.

    A previous JHJ thread on here quoted Greg Wood in the Guardian:

    There are clear indications that the investigation into Striking Article’s neurectomy was the result of intelligence received, since it would be most unusual to perform a post-mortem on a horse that had been put down after such a minor race.

    Newbury was a different situation as nobody knew for sure what had killed Fenix Two and Marching Song.

    #356565
    Avatar photoCrazy Horse
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    Apologies for resurrecting this thread again, but the case came to my mind in the last couple of days, for the same reasons (when is the inquiry taking place).
    Interesting thoughts, although one aspect on the ‘de-nerving’ item still plays in my mind.

    Which Rule of Racing has actually been broken here?
    I mean, is there a specific rule relating to the practice of de-nerving of a horse’s leg(s), and then running under Rules?

    Or has Howard been issued with a general charge? (The application of steroids charge seems clear – but not this one).
    This is very pedantic of me, but I need to know these things!!

    Howard’s had a hard time of it in the last couple of years – fires, robbery, victim of assault, tax investigations…- I’m surprised he’s been able to carry on. Hasn’t exactly has a poor season when you count the winners. Though, he must be a hardy er, soul.

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    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    This article explains it
    http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546

    You cannot give someone sympathy for a tax office investigation when they only conduct investigations because of sufficient evidence of malpractice. Not saying he is guilty but that is like saying you feel sorry for someone arrested for assault!

    #356594
    360 degrees
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    The longer it takes, the worse it’ll be!

    #356597
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    I hope so he deserves everything he gets

    #356600
    Coggy
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    I often think that you make your own luck in life Crazy Horse.
    If the charges are proven then he should receive the appropriate punishment which I cannot see being lenient.

    #356692
    Avatar photoCrazy Horse
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    This article explains it
    http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546

    Thanks Admiral. So, if I interpret this correctly, there is nothing specific in the rules about "neurectomy". The charge under Rule (C) 22 relates to a more general ‘falling below the acceptable standards’ relating to ‘duties and skills’ of a trainer, bottoming out on ‘willful neglect’.
    Mmmnn…on this charge my money’s on Rory MacNeice.

    #356696
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    Who is ROry MacNeice?

    #356727
    jinnyj
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    This article explains it
    http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546

    Thanks Admiral. So, if I interpret this correctly, there is nothing specific in the rules about "neurectomy". The charge under Rule (C) 22 relates to a more general ‘falling below the acceptable standards’ relating to ‘duties and skills’ of a trainer, bottoming out on ‘willful neglect’.
    Mmmnn…on this charge my money’s on Rory MacNeice.

    No I’m pretty sure (although I haven’t got my Rule Book to hand) that a neurectomy is a banned practice and it states very clearly in the Rule Book that you can not run horses that have been de- nerved. I was very aware of it – in fact as a trainer you are supposed to know all the rules and I fail to believe that JHJ didn’t know them.

    Rory MacNeice is a solicitor, I believe?

    #356752
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    Who is ROry MacNeice?

    Famous solicitor – a lot of the alleged wrongdoers in racing use him.

    #356757
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    Agree – it’s hard to imagine that a leading trainer in the UK or France (think Nicholls, Pipe, Henderson, Macaire, Cherel, Gallorini etc.) would do this to a horse and then put the horse in danger and the jockey by racing it again.

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