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- May 11, 2011 at 11:15 #354913
Post mortems are always carried out on horses that die at a race track as with the Newbury two.
Should you wish to see the full charges & possible penalties follow this link:-
https://www.britishhorseracing.presscen … S-1ac.aspxMay 11, 2011 at 13:52 #354936It’s an awful thing that is alleged. What I don’t understand is why Graham and Andrea Wylie continue to let him train their horses, I wouldn’t let him within an ass’s roar of any I had
May 11, 2011 at 16:40 #354964The Sporting Life has an interesting word next to JHJ’s photo on this web-page:
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Trainer_Profile/0,12487,340,00.html
May 11, 2011 at 16:51 #354965On the subject of this man, did police ever find the people he said had robbed him & his wife of £100,000 cash – at gun-point? A very serious crime.
May 11, 2011 at 17:51 #354974Haha….very good spot their Re: Sportinglife.
May 11, 2011 at 17:54 #354975One newspaper reporting that the investigation into Jockey is now over and no charge……
May 11, 2011 at 18:07 #354979Post mortems are always carried out on horses that die at a race track as with the Newbury two.
Should you wish to see the full charges & possible penalties follow this link:-
https://www.britishhorseracing.presscen … S-1ac.aspxYes, I read that at the time. However if you read the BHA Rules of Racing they state:
a Veterinary Officer
may
order a post mortem examination of any horse which dies, or is humanely destroyed as a result of an injury or accident occurring, on any Racecourse Property.
This implies it’s a discretionary process.
A previous JHJ thread on here quoted Greg Wood in the Guardian:
There are clear indications that the investigation into Striking Article’s neurectomy was the result of intelligence received, since it would be most unusual to perform a post-mortem on a horse that had been put down after such a minor race.
Newbury was a different situation as nobody knew for sure what had killed Fenix Two and Marching Song.
May 22, 2011 at 09:17 #356565Apologies for resurrecting this thread again, but the case came to my mind in the last couple of days, for the same reasons (when is the inquiry taking place).
Interesting thoughts, although one aspect on the ‘de-nerving’ item still plays in my mind.Which Rule of Racing has actually been broken here?
I mean, is there a specific rule relating to the practice of de-nerving of a horse’s leg(s), and then running under Rules?Or has Howard been issued with a general charge? (The application of steroids charge seems clear – but not this one).
This is very pedantic of me, but I need to know these things!!Howard’s had a hard time of it in the last couple of years – fires, robbery, victim of assault, tax investigations…- I’m surprised he’s been able to carry on. Hasn’t exactly has a poor season when you count the winners. Though, he must be a hardy er, soul.
May 22, 2011 at 11:47 #356593This article explains it
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546You cannot give someone sympathy for a tax office investigation when they only conduct investigations because of sufficient evidence of malpractice. Not saying he is guilty but that is like saying you feel sorry for someone arrested for assault!
May 22, 2011 at 11:49 #356594The longer it takes, the worse it’ll be!
May 22, 2011 at 12:04 #356597I hope so he deserves everything he gets
May 22, 2011 at 12:14 #356600I often think that you make your own luck in life Crazy Horse.
If the charges are proven then he should receive the appropriate punishment which I cannot see being lenient.May 22, 2011 at 18:34 #356692This article explains it
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546Thanks Admiral. So, if I interpret this correctly, there is nothing specific in the rules about "neurectomy". The charge under Rule (C) 22 relates to a more general ‘falling below the acceptable standards’ relating to ‘duties and skills’ of a trainer, bottoming out on ‘willful neglect’.
Mmmnn…on this charge my money’s on Rory MacNeice.May 22, 2011 at 19:06 #356696Who is ROry MacNeice?
May 22, 2011 at 22:10 #356727This article explains it
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/home.s … ument=1546Thanks Admiral. So, if I interpret this correctly, there is nothing specific in the rules about "neurectomy". The charge under Rule (C) 22 relates to a more general ‘falling below the acceptable standards’ relating to ‘duties and skills’ of a trainer, bottoming out on ‘willful neglect’.
Mmmnn…on this charge my money’s on Rory MacNeice.No I’m pretty sure (although I haven’t got my Rule Book to hand) that a neurectomy is a banned practice and it states very clearly in the Rule Book that you can not run horses that have been de- nerved. I was very aware of it – in fact as a trainer you are supposed to know all the rules and I fail to believe that JHJ didn’t know them.
Rory MacNeice is a solicitor, I believe?
May 23, 2011 at 08:21 #356752Who is ROry MacNeice?
Famous solicitor – a lot of the alleged wrongdoers in racing use him.
May 23, 2011 at 09:05 #356757Agree – it’s hard to imagine that a leading trainer in the UK or France (think Nicholls, Pipe, Henderson, Macaire, Cherel, Gallorini etc.) would do this to a horse and then put the horse in danger and the jockey by racing it again.
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