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How bizarre? Races scheduled to clash twice at Sandown & Lingfield

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    Why would you schedule races at 3.30 and 4.05 at both tracks including the most valuable races at both scheduled for 3.30?

    As the Lingfield races can’t now be run earlier than the scheduled time why weren’t both Lingfield races scheduled to start 5 minutes earlier and delayed a minute or two for Wetherby if required?

    Do people really get paid for making these sort of decisions?

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    According to Channel 4 racing website the Sandown race is still showing as 3.35pm so it’s likely Channel 4 may have asked for it to be moved so they can show the Leopardstown Gold Cup at 3.40pm.

    Leopardstown is not officially scheduled for Channel 4 put a little googling shows they are now showing the Gold Cup therefore have asked for the 3.35 to be moved five minutes earlier.

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    Looking at the TV listings it shows that Sandown’s 3.30 race was supposed to be run at 3.35 but assume it’s being run five minutes earlier at the request of Channel 4 so they can show the Irish Gold Cup.

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    Fair enough lads but you would have thought the authorities could have shown a bit of initiative and dropped back Lingfield by 5 mins at the same time.

    Always thought that Leopardstown meeting worked well on a Sunday when it had more of the stage to itself.

    #1232502
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    Fair enough lads but you would have thought the authorities could have shown a bit of initiative and dropped back Lingfield by 5 mins at the same time.

    Channel 4 have no control over Lingfield and ATR would go spare if Lingfield clashed with Leopardstown just to suit Channel 4 if there was a delay at the start and Lingfield probably don’t want 40 minutes between races.

    I don’t think Channel 4 can enforce change a time of a meeting they are not showing and why should they interfere with ATR’s plans?

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    No steve, by dropped back I mean 3.25, 30 minutes after Lingfields previous race. It would probably be a couple of minutes late with Wetherby being 3 miles but would be even further away from Leopardstown than 3.30 is.

    Races regularly get held at ATR tracks while other races are completed at RUK tracks and vice versa even for minor Irish races, the mistake here is not altering Lingfields off times when they altered Sandowns.

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    But it shouldn’t come down to what any tv channel want. The fixtures should be made to avoid clashes regardless of who is showing them. On a day like today where there are 5 meetings there should be a 35 minute gap between races at all courses. So for example starting at
    12:25 lingfield
    12:30 Sandown
    12:35 Ffos Las
    12:45 Wetherby
    12:50 Leopardstown
    13:00 lingfield
    13:05 Sandown
    13:10 Ffos Las
    13:20 Wetherby
    13:25 leopardstown
    13:35 Lingfield
    13;40 Sandown
    13:45 Ffos Las
    13:50 Wetherby
    And so on …..
    under my system there are no clashes at all, and races are held on alternate channels to give the channel a few mins in between races to preview races. Under my system the only time a channel would have two races in a row would be ATR lingfield follows Leopardstown, but there is a ten minute break between them anyway.

    It shouldn’t be that difficult for someone in British racing to fix the times in a similar way to I have done above

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    But it shouldn’t come down to what any tv channel want. The fixtures should be made to avoid clashes regardless of who is showing them. On a day like today where there are 5 meetings there should be a 35 minute gap between races at all courses. So for example starting at
    12:25 lingfield
    12:30 Sandown
    12:35 Ffos Las
    12:45 Wetherby
    12:50 Leopardstown
    13:00 lingfield
    13:05 Sandown
    13:10 Ffos Las
    13:20 Wetherby
    13:25 leopardstown
    13:35 Lingfield
    13;40 Sandown
    13:45 Ffos Las
    13:50 Wetherby
    And so on …..
    under my system there are no clashes at all, and races are held on alternate channels to give the channel a few mins in between races to preview races. Under my system the only time a channel would have two races in a row would be ATR lingfield follows Leopardstown, but there is a ten minute break between them anyway.

    It shouldn’t be that difficult for someone in British racing to fix the times in a similar way to I have done above

    As part of their contract Channel 4 can ask for a race time to be changed to fit in with the limited hours they are on air, they have no control over Ireland so they have to show Leopardstown at 3.40pm but we all know how this should have been scheduled but someone has either just not thought it through or some of the tv companies have spat the dummy out and said no.

    ATR and RUK cannot dictate the times of races but can “hold back” for another race finishing but again they do not decide this unless it is two of their own tracks and it does not affect the other.

    The race times have always been ridiculous there are 3m races run 5 mins before a 5f all weather sprint then 10 or 15 mins to next race, no one ever thinks what they are doing in racing.

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