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October 7, 2008 at 16:39 #9023
Hi all, I have a few horses I think could be ahead of the handicapper and I’m waiting to see where they run.
My list is below, do you all fancy anything ?
Rippling Ring – should win a few good hurdle races.
Silverburn – breathing op could turn him into a corking horse.
Mobaasher – another breathing op horse from Nicholls, could be a smart 3m race in him.
Battlecry – Like this horse and he looks a National type to me.
Jack The Giant – may not be harshly treated as races he mainly won have been hurdles.Paddy Power Chase
I think Imperial Commander of Twiston-Davies has a huge chance, Silverburn and Jack The Giant could be the dangers.October 7, 2008 at 16:42 #183911Rippling Ring is comfortably ahead of the handicapper, and Paul Nicholls knows as much by all accounts.
October 7, 2008 at 16:49 #183913Agreed
I’ll be having a decent bet on him when he re-appearsOctober 7, 2008 at 18:57 #183934An unexposed Paul Nicholls horse, which the man himself says is ahead of the handicapper, will probably start so short as to not make any bet worthwhile – decent or otherwise.
October 7, 2008 at 19:08 #183936Might be the case, but might not – i remember Paul Nicholls writing in his column that the ill-fated Granit Jack was the best handicapped chaser ever to run for his yard on the day he died. He was 3-1 that day.
October 7, 2008 at 19:14 #183939Price would also depend on other runners.
Example – there could be a hot 2m handicap with the likes of these running –
Rippling Ring
Ashkazar
Crack Away Jack
Jered
Leg SpinnerYou never know, it would be great.
October 7, 2008 at 19:20 #183942True PC, but Granit Jack’s price was probably a reflection of the typically competitive nature of the race, genuine dubiety about him getting a run (only just sneaked in as bottom-weight at the overnight stage), and the fact that he hadn’t been seen over fences for 18 months.
I’m not convinced the same kind of issues/concerns will apply to Rippling Ring, whenever he re-appears over hurdles.
Edit: PNAMH – I agree that price will also be dictated by the strength of the opposition, and if he met the horses you’ve listed first time out, I’m sure you would think twice before having a lumpy wager on him, just because he looks ahead of the handicapper.
October 7, 2008 at 19:26 #183944Fair points, and to be fair i was amazed at Granit Jacks price that day. Would surely have won as far as he wanted but for falling.
October 7, 2008 at 21:10 #183965Shouldn’t this thread be in the general horse racing forum?
October 7, 2008 at 23:14 #183985John Quinn’s Charater Building who is sure to win decent races is still very well in.Watch out if he runs in the Hennessy again. The National is his long term objective though.
Jonjo’s Mountain is a horse I like. He had an operation but it never had the desired affect. Don’t give up on him he oozes class and if they can get him right he’ll be absolutely thrown in.
Despite the fact Punjabi will carry top weight in the Tote Gold Trophy I forecast he will run it and he’ll win it.
October 8, 2008 at 13:06 #184023I’d be nothing short of flabbergasted if Punjabi was within half a stone of the best treated horse in the Tote Gold Trophy, personally (currently rated 163).
Character Building is still my idea of a National winner (backed him before he was injured last year), but if he’s to win at Aintree I’ll happily leave him alone until then, as off 138 he’s hardly got stones of room IMO. Given his OR over hurdles is 111, I’ll be expecting to see him over the smaller obstacles a lot more between now and April.
October 8, 2008 at 13:39 #184028Kings Euro is thought to be well treated for, and is being aimed at, the Welsh Grand National.
In an effort to protect his mark he is to be campaigned over hurdles in the early part of the season.
Colin
October 8, 2008 at 13:49 #184029Verasi will win the Welsh Nash, Col bach.
October 8, 2008 at 13:56 #184030Would I argue with you, Grass.
Col (not so bach these days)
October 8, 2008 at 16:59 #184049I’d be nothing short of flabbergasted if Punjabi was within half a stone of the best treated horse in the Tote Gold Trophy, personally (currently rated 163).
Character Building is still my idea of a National winner (backed him before he was injured last year), but if he’s to win at Aintree I’ll happily leave him alone until then, as off 138 he’s hardly got stones of room IMO. Given his OR over hurdles is 111, I’ll be expecting to see him over the smaller obstacles a lot more between now and April.
6/4 says he never see a hurdle
October 8, 2008 at 17:19 #184052UIVMM, Character Building was entered up for a spin over hurdles last year on a Saturday (at about 13/8 favourite in the morning IIRC), but was pulled out. John Quinn’s obviously not averse to taking that route with him.
October 9, 2008 at 17:32 #184128I honestly can’t see it Friggo. He doesn’t take a lot of getting fit and has never ran a bad race in his life bar once in the Scottish National.
It could be he will send him for a spin somewhere but the most likely option will be to go straight for the Hennessy.
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