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Apologises if this is in the public domain and I’ve missed it but what has happened to the B Sample taken from Henderson’s horse that failed a dope test back in March?
As I recall, Binocular’s absence from the Champion Hurdle followed a positive ‘elective’ dope test for an illegal raceday substance (nothing wrong with that no rules of racing broken) which was asked for following a positive race day A sample from another of Henderson’s horses for the same substance.
At the time it was reported that the B sample was to be sent for analysis, so:
# Was the B sample positive or negative?
# If positive when will charges against Henderson be brought by the BHA?Or
# Has the BHA/Old Boys Network buried it because Henderson is a good chap?
Pete,
The procedure is that the ‘B’ sample is sent to the laboratory run by the French racing authorities for independent testing – or if they can’t do it, it goes to the Germans.
So I presume the BHA have to sit and wait for a response and if French dope testing is anything like French officialdom generally, that could be a long wait.
AP
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# Has the BHA/Old Boys Network buried it because Henderson is a good chap?
No
Pompete
they haven’t. They are waiting for the B sample to be processed. So please don’t start all that Old Boy stuff again.
So I presume the BHA have to sit and wait for a response and if French dope testing is anything like French officialdom generally, that could be a long wait.
AP
Thank’s AP, that would explain things and also to be fair to the BHA, upon reflection, it has only been just over two months since the Champion Hurdle – but it seemed a lot longer than that to me hence my question.
Pinza, I could have guessed you’d pipe up supporting your chum – you devil
This is how Mr. Terry was treated
A BHA statement read: "Having considered the evidence, the panel was satisfied that Mr Terry had, on the stated occasions, placed lay bets on his Betfair account on horses in his ownership."The panel noted that Mr Terry did not make a profit from placing lay bets on horses that he owned.
"The panel was satisfied that Mr Terry’s intentions were not to manipulate the betting market and alter the price of the horses prior to the races in a bid to gain extra profits.
"The panel accepted an admission from Mr Terry that he was in breach of Rule 247 and Rule (E)92.2 and disqualified him for 18 months from Friday, May 20 2011 until November 19, 2012 inclusive."
Mr.Henderson admitted to laying his whole yard and walked off scott free.How about that?Nothing surprises me about Mr Henderson.
He instructs the medication of a six year old horse, with chronic bleeding problems, on its debut raceday, in direct contravention of a rule that states only food and water. He’s banned for 3 summer months and allowed to race his horses under another trainer’s name.
The vet who medicated under his instruction loses his licence.
He muddled two horses and their passports. http://www.britishhorseracing.com/insid … linary.asp (type in Henderson)
He omitted to notify one of his horses (Zarinski) had been gelded.
As already mentioned, he laid all his horses for the Cheltenham festival.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Mr Henderson is an ‘untouchable’Hey Nor1, you forgot the one about the antepost favorite for the 2010 Champion Hurdle.
He told everyone the horse wasn’t running, everyone except Weatherbys…
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He’s banned for 3 summer months and allowed to race his horses under another trainer’s name.
Chapter and Verse, please?
Major Miller and Prince De Beury were transferred to Oliver Sherwood and ran over jumps during the summer of 2009.
Caracciola was transferred to Barry Hills after his win at Royal Ascot in order to enable him to run in the Goodwood Cup.
AP
Major Miller and Prince De Beury were transferred to Oliver Sherwood and ran over jumps during the summer of 2009.
Caracciola was transferred to Barry Hills after his win at Royal Ascot in order to enable him to run in the Goodwood Cup.
AP
Yes, MM & PduB both went Henderson -> Sherwood -> Henderson.
Caracciola went Henderson -> Hills -> Henderson.
July 2009.At least, that’s what the RP database says …
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Thank you
AP
and
360 degrees
: very clearly owners moved horses from Henderson to a stable from which they could run. They then moved them back to Henderson after his ban was served.
Which proves what? That the owners did not feel their horses should suffer the same ban as their trainer, but were sufficiently loyal to move them back afterwards. And how many were moved and did not return?
In either case, the moves represented a loss of income to the banned trainer, as he was not getting the fees whilst they were in another’s care. They were not "his" horses, in any sense, during those months. These examples demonstrate understandable behaviour on the part of some owners, rather than nefarious goings on from a banned trainer.
Or is there some sort of suspicion that Henderson was receiving back-handers from Sherwood or Barry Hills for pretending to train these horses? Is there any proof of this? If so, I suggest
Nor1
or anyone else in possession of evidence should contact the BHA. It’s time to "put up…", rather than making sly insinuations.
Pinza,
We’ve all got the message by now, but basically you’re appealing to the wrong audience by posting on TRF.
The correct address for evidence relating to the future beatification of Saint Nicky is :
His Holiness The Pope
00120 Via De Pellgrino
Citta Del Vaticano
AP
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AP
, you misread my sentiments about Mr Henderson. As I’ve written elsewhere, on other threads, I do not find the man or his methods congenial, and would certainly not invite him to Pinza Hall for afternoon tea – the standard by which I judge the greater part of humanity.
However, I care for witch-hunts, class prejudice and conspiracy theories even less.
I hope indeed that my message therefore
is
quite clear.
Hey Nor1, you forgot the one about the antepost favorite for the 2010 Champion Hurdle.
He told everyone the horse wasn’t running, everyone except Weatherbys…
I chuckled on your reply. Brilliantly put!
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Or is there some sort of suspicion that Henderson was receiving back-handers from Sherwood or Barry Hills for pretending to train these horses? Is there any proof of this? If so, I suggest Nor1 or anyone else in possession of evidence should contact the BHA. It’s time to "put up…", rather than making sly insinuations.
Didn’t chuckle at
Pinza’s
remarks at all. Where on earth do I slyly insinuate anything? I had no suspicions whatsoever! In fact, I’d never even thought about the possibilities of backhanders!! But now you have mentioned it ……….
For beatification we need miracles.
Knackered.
Hold on, wait a minute – I forgot Binocular’s 2010 Champion Hurdle and his miraculous comeback.
I therefore declare that N.J. Henderson will henceforth be known on TRF as Saint Nick II (until he starts slipping down chimneys on Xmas Eve in which case he’ll be elevated to #I)
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