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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Benoit DLS on Israr….. Should have kept him riding him to the line.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    I’d say the horse threw the race away not the jockey

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    FF, I think Benoit underestimated the winner, I mean his tendency to rally inside the final furlong which is well documented. As a jockey you should know your opposition and that’s why I felt that he threw the race away. Not on purpose, but he felt a bit too confident.

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    Avatar photoArchipenko
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    This is out of TAGHROODA.

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    zilzal
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    Israr appears to have drifted markedly to his right in the last 100 yards indicating tiredness 1 would think.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Look at isrars head carriage when he hits the front

    Horse has got lonely in front and downed tools

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    Was anything said about the pace of the race?

    Considering the strongly run race it was probably jockey error. Made his move too soon.
    Israr (who’d been held up in the last two) made his ground up comparatively quickly – at a time when his rivals were already going a good pace. Then went to the front too early and had nothing left in the very slow (13.34 seconds) final furlong.

    Had he made ground slowly and challenged the leader inside the final furlong may well have won.

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    LD73
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    In hindsight he hit the front 100-200 yards too soon and thus gave the winner time to rally from having a target to run at – you have to give props to the winner though as he was on the front end chasing the leader (who finished out the back of the TV) from the start and was actually pulling away from Israr in the last 75 yards.

    I wonder if Israr just isn’t suited by Ascot as it is his third run at the course and he has been beaten every time – he looked a little lost when he hit the front and where he came up that middle part of the course it is very wide open (wide enough for 30 runners in the big handicaps on the straight course).

    Maybe there is somewhat of a case for the horse throwing it away by not putting it all in but I think it is a little harsh to blame the jockey.

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    Don’t really like the word “blame”. I think Sayette is one of the best young jockeys around, but everyone makes mistakes. If asking the jockey himself I think you’d get the same answer, “Came too soon”. Sorry but when looking at the fractions I can’t come to any other conclusion. No big deal, Benoit is young and still learning and made a mistake that even experienced jockeys make. But it’s still jockey error.

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    LD73
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    I would imagine at the time he made the move he thought it was the winning (and right) move and unless you have knowledge from riding the horse previously (it was the first time riding Israr) or have been specifically told to ride the horse a certain way i.e. come as late as possible as the horse does nothing once hitting the front…..if he had been told that or something similar and still rode the way he did then there is an argument for putting the blame on him as jockey error.

    I don’t think anyone would have questioned BDLS’s tactics at the moment he committed the horse and hit the front as being a tactical mistake or jockey error, would it have made a difference had he given a full on drive all the way to the line….I am doubtful as Israr didn’t responded when the winner came back upside and passed him and was actually going away at the line but then as we all know hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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    Yes, “at the time he made the move (am sure) he thought it was the winning (and right) move” LD. But that was because he misjudged the pace. You don’t need knowledge about the horse to realise if the fractions are overly fast early then if making your move too soon you’re taking a big risk of not having enough left in the final furlong… And that should not be regarded as “hindsight”, a jockey should know when the pace is too fast for an early move. Even when a jockey has instructions – everything being equal – to “take it up before one out”… If the pace of the race is overly strong the jockey will rightly be expected to delay his move until later. Just as if the pace was slower he’d be expected to take it up sooner.

    That said, it also had a lot to do with who Israr was up against. I would not call Israr ungenuine; but Ruby is right about Al Qareem, he is perhaps the most genuine horse in training. Vast majority of horses are beaten once headed, but Al Qareem has led, been headed and then fought back to win, not just this once but – judged on Racing Post comments – four times! So although by the way the jockeys were moving Israr looked home and hosed, Al Qareem could be expected to find much more than the average racehorse for pressure.

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    Yeah, I agree regarding your assessment GT; Benoit de la Sayette is a ‘good’ young jockey, the difference being that Clifford Lee can be categorised as ‘very good’ :good:

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