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Betting and gambling is for adults, but horse racing should be accessible for people of all ages. That’s probably why when I was younger I used to get irritated by how racing only ever seemed to be marketed as a betting medium, with little for the purists to indulge on. It still irritates me now, when too much focus is put on betting. I don’t understand it ;)
"that is not a lot different to that Reading v Chelsea footie match that was replayed over, and over, and over on the BEEB.  A soccer player gets his head taken off, and it’s fair game.  A jock falls off a horse and it is deemed unfit for human consumption?  Waddup with that?"
As far as I’m aware football doesn’t have an action group trying to get it banned as dangerous and cruel.
I’m not saying racing should pander to its enemies, but it should try not to alienate its friends. I’m glad the broadcasters are showing responsibility in not adding fuel to the arguments of the critics.
No more than Bravo would assume that pre-pubescent kids could be watching ‘King Dong does Dallas’ at 11.40 on a Friday night
That King Dong . . . he’ll go anywhere for a good time:o
Racing Daily – are you having a wind up?<br>Racing is for all ages, it is not just an adult sport, and not just for gambling. In fact, because of gambling and greed, we have the image and integrity of racing greatly damaged.<br>As for ATR censorship, as Sal put it, it’s probably done in good taste. (Do you remember a bad air crash when people blocked the motorway so they could gawp? Sick).<br>The only gripe is the occasional delay or even forgetting to inform us when all is well with horse/jockey.
I completely agree with you Nor. I always want to know how the horse/jockey is after a nasty fall and they’re not very consistent with whether they keep you informed or not.
And yeah I’m sure it’s out of respect for the connections/families that bad falls aren’t shown. It’s rather voyeuristic.
Racing is not just about betting! I’ve been into racing since I was about 11 and I’ve had about three bets in my entire life. Racing’s far bigger and better than that.
Good to have someone agree Burroughhill.<br>If only the racing regulators had realised that "racing’s far bigger and better" than betting we wouldn’t be where we are today.
Yeh guys there is more to racing than betting, its a mlti billion pound breeding industry now. <br>But without betting horse racing would have faded into virtual obscurity years ago, <br>and without betting Racecourses would cease to exist, as the paying customer is the life and blood of all courses.<br> As I have said before I love to see top class horses take each other on, ie the Cheltenham Festival and we have a possible titanic battle for the guinneas in May between Teofilo and the Emperor, with the possibility of fast ground in May its the Emperor for me everytime, very unlucky in the Dewhurst on ground softer than ideal.
madman marz – racing would not have faded into virtual obscurity without betting, but we would probably have less of it. Still, without the owners, trainers, and jockeys who drug and cheat, the sport would be more highly regarded and perhaps attendance would increase and the likes of the BBC would not reduce televised coverage.
I have to vehemently disagree with you Nor 1, I hate crooked trainers and Jockeys too, as they are decieving the life blood of the sport the ordinary punter.<br>Tell me Nor1,  if you hadn’t got any racecourses left where would the horses run ??,  yes people do go racing to see the horses, but I would say at a guess 95% would have a bet when their there, without the betting, attendance would drop to a trickle and eventually the course would close, its self explanatory really !.<br>As for the BBC we are a minority sport we have to accept that, I think its the best sport in the world, but racing will never appeal to the masses for the most part, the National, Derby and Cheltenham festival been exceptions.
(Edited by madman marz at 11:16 pm on Feb. 7, 2007)
Hey Madman, welcome.
What about Dubai? More chance of surviving a cosy night in with John Amaechi than getting a Yankee on at Nad Al Sheba.<br>
Quote: from madman marz on 9:54 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]between Teofilo and the Emperor, with the possibility of fast ground in May its the Emperor for me everytime, very unlucky in the Dewhurst on ground softer than ideal. <br>
I wouldn’t restart that topic just yet if I were you! :biggrin:
Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 12:04 am on Feb. 8, 2007[br]Hey Madman, welcome.
What about Dubai? More chance of surviving a cosy night in with John Amaechi than getting a Yankee on at Nad Al Sheba.<br>Cheers Max,<br>Dubai is an owners paradise with the amount of money on offer, I wouldnt bet on it that the arabs are sticking by the law I would say there is plenty of illicit betting going on, after all Some ruling Sheikh is probably in Paris now shacking up with a couple of high class hookers for a threesome, the same Sheikh would go back home and implement the death penalty if an arab women committed adultery ie probably stoned to death by her immediate family.<br>
Nor1 Posted on 10:12 pm on Feb. 7, 2007 <br>madman marz – racing would not have faded into virtual obscurity without betting
<br>.. I have to disagree with that Nor .. Greyhound racing is a sport that has withered on the vine because it’s not viable as a betting medium. The only thing that keeps racing going is the continual feed of betting revenue .. without it there would be no racing. Like Belgium.
Quote: from FlatSeasonLover on 12:34 am on Feb. 8, 2007[br]
Quote: from madman marz on 9:54 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]between Teofilo and the Emperor, with the possibility of fast ground in May its the Emperor for me everytime, very unlucky in the Dewhurst on ground softer than ideal. <br>
I wouldn’t restart that topic just yet if I were you! :biggrin:<br>
I see by the bottom of your post that you have your mind made up already, so I will the subject alone for another while.<br>By your user name I see your a big fan of the real racing we will just have to stick out another few months of the chronic midweek racing that the jump season churns out, Cheltenham and Aintree apart of course. Roll on the Lincoln.
Although his passage was troubled, Holy Roman Emperor had every chance of beating Teofilo. He headed him inside the last 1f. However the reason he got so close having met trouble is because Teofilo doesn’t do much in front. Arguably therefore, you could rate both Teofilo and Holy Roman Emperor as better than the bare result suggests in the Dewhurst. That’s my opinion and Ill be surprised if anything behind te first 2 reverses form in the Guineas. We shall see.
I’m even contemplating my Newmarket debut to see thatepic contest. Anyone know of a good place to stay?:biggrin:
Roll on the Lincoln.
Yes, those are the four most depressing words in the English language. Equally depressing are the four weeks of complete dross that separate the Lincoln from the Guineas meeting. The Craven meeting is, before you say anything, dross.
If you like Flat racing, you should be watching the Nad Al Sheba action rather than chalking off the days to a tedious mile handicap the result of which no-one cares about.
Although some of the midweek jumps stuff is, as you say, not all that great either.
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