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Jan Vermeer is 7/4 fav for the race with Plantuer and
Behkahbad next in betting but at a price i like GoldwakiOn breeding the Wertheimer animal looks the most likely to stay. He can follow in Montmartre and Rail Link’s foot steps by following up a Prix Du Lys victory with a Gp 1 win on Bastille Day.
Since the race was moved and increased to 1m 4f in 2005, the Lys seems to be developing into a key trial – possibly as it can attract slow maturing dark horses that have by passed the Jockey Club (though Montmartre did run in the Jockey Club he was well beaten and not given a hard race).
Also the Jockey Club form looks suspect with Lope De Vega blowing out, and I think Planteur looked to be comeing to the end of his tether at Chantilly so cannot see him staying this the trip tomorrow.
Hopefully a fast pace sets it up for Goldwaki.
Watched Goldwaki LTO and he seemed to run green at times but is probably an improving colt. Peslier does rate this horse as one to follow and under the great trainer Fabre must be in with a chance (Maybe the new Rail Link).I did think of taking anti post on him for the Arc but will hold till after this race. Jan Vermeer may be a 10f horse and best on soft. Jury is still out on Behkabad he would need to improve a lot on his last run.
Jan Vermeer is a 10 furlong horse.
Well he"s a 10 furlong horse who will win this! and there"s plenty of 5/2!
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When Teddy Grimthorpe was asked which of Workforce and Bullet Train was Khalid Abdulla’s best chance of Derby glory, he replied ‘Ice Blue in France’.
I’m happy to overlook a rather disappointing display at Chantilly.
Jan Vermeer is a 10 furlong horse.
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Ice Blue and Planteur look the best of a bad bunch.
My concern with Ice Blue is that he seemed to let the occasion get the better fo him before the Jockey Club, and he could be a temperamental type. If he boils over again there is little to recommend his prospects of staying the longer trip.
I was all over Planteur before the Jockey Club, but he looked a short runner to me that day so with an extra 1.5f tomorrow it is easy to pass him over.
When Teddy Grimthorpe was asked which of Workforce and Bullet Train was Khalid Abdulla’s best chance of Derby glory, he replied ‘Ice Blue in France’.
I’m happy to overlook a rather disappointing display at Chantilly.
Grimthorpe knows nothing. His comments earlier in the year about certain horses were laughable. A miracle he’s in the job he is.
Really don’t see what was disappointing about Ice Blue in the PdJC. The distance between himself and Handsome Devil was pretty much the same as it was in their previous 2 encounters that year.
Behkabad was motoring home in the PdJC and may well have won in another 100 metres, while Goldwaki has plenty of untapped potential. A no-bet for me, but it’ll be an extremely interesting race, much more interesting that some on here think.
Joyeux jour de la Bastille! Or similar.
Beheshtam seduced me last year after his impressive late rally in the Jockey Club. Eventually it was deduced that he was superior on soft ground – a stark contrast to the Cape Cross half-brother competing today, who by all reports is much pacier.
No bet, although I will declare that the Arc winner is among this field.
Behkabad was motoring home in the PdJC and may well have won in another 100 metres
Behkabad
pour moi, gl all
edit: chap over there says it’s raining already, may swerve this race but will play frankie’s mount in purple moon’s race
Jan Vermeer is a 10 furlong horse.
Well he"s a 10 furlong horse who will win this! and there"s plenty of 5/2!
I’d better say it now TAPK because it will look terrible after the result but I would be delighted to be wrong about Jan Vermeer because he’s in my TTF but…………..
Jan Vermeer is a 10 furlong horse.
Well he"s a 10 furlong horse who will win this! and there"s plenty of 5/2!
I’d better say it now TAPK because it will look terrible after the result but I would be delighted to be wrong about Jan Vermeer because he’s in my TTF but…………..
I didn"t see the race Bob,but obviously Jan Vermeer isn"t in the first 2! I"m Humbled Sir,well spotted!
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You get these responses TAPK because you have a habbit of rubbing people up the wrong way, but because you’re a self proclaime genius maybe its part and parcel of the job
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You get these responses TAPK because you have a habbit of rubbing people up the wrong way, but because you’re a self proclaime genius maybe its part and parcel of the job
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Genius is spelt correctly anyway Mr W!
Behkabad was motoring home in the PdJC and may well have won in another 100 metres
Behkabad
pour moi, gl all
edit: chap over there says it’s raining already, may swerve this race but will play frankie’s mount in purple moon’s race
whoops, frankie’s was useless, and the easy to predict winner Bekhabad…was unbacked..
d’oh
Good shout Zarkava – I think Planteur’s stamina short comings were once again exposed. Pace seemed to be slow, and it turned into a sprint up the straight – Goldwaki was totally outpaced when the sprint happened and in another stride would have claimed 3rd. I think he needs every yard of the trip and perhaps could be persuaded to take in the Leger? He seemed tapped for toe in the Lys and I hoped tonight he would be ridden a bit handier in case there was no pace but Pesilier seemed content to sit in behind Jan Vermeer and Planteur – but in all honesty the horse lacks the toe to win over 12f at the highest level and I think his chances of winning an Arc ar eminimal, even with a pacesetter. I would strongly disagree with the RP analysis which suggests he did not handle the ground and deserves another chance. I would suggest you (and the RP guy) watch the Lys and then this race and see how similar the race unfolds – almost identical, the only difference Goldamix did not pick up this time as he was simply outclassed.
The winner was nothing if not game, and dug deep when it mattered. I would be doubtful if we saw an Arc winner tonight – whilst the French 3 y-o form looked superiour up until June, personally I would be inclined to back Workforce for the Arc b4 the KG at this stage – like Sea The Stars last season, his Arc odds at this stage look very long indeed.
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