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Grand National – Who’s had enough?

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  • #21528
    Bachelors Hall
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    I don’t want to distract from the other threads, rather I just want to see a show of hands from horse racing fans.

    #400613
    Jamsym
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    Keep it as it is. Just hope all the once a year animal cruelty brigrade doesn’t spoilt it :(

    Maybe they should focus on animal testing where millions of animals per year are killed producing cosmetic products instead of horse racing where a tiny fraction die doing what they love and are acclaimed as heros in the process.

    #400620
    Eclipse First
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    If only it hadn’t been for Red Rum the race would have expired in the 1970s.

    The Grand National is totally irrelevant to the fundamental elements of National Hunt racing. Keeping it threatens the very existence of the whole sport.

    Just think how many dwellings could be built on the site of the racecourse to help the natives learn the art of housebreaking.

    #400627
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    To be honest, I couldn’t care less about what the brigade think.

    I just worry about other people’s opinions being formed and affected as a collinear reaction against the brigade.

    Horse racing is not perfect and I feel it’s in the best interests of the sport to be openly and honestly introspective without people bleating on about "those wooly minded bleeding hearted pinko guardian reading yoghurt weaving…"

    #400630
    betlarge
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    Keep it as it is. Just hope all the once a year animal cruelty brigrade doesn’t spoilt it :(

    Maybe they should focus on animal testing where millions of animals per year are killed producing cosmetic products instead of horse racing where a tiny fraction die doing what they love and are acclaimed as heros in the process.

    It has been illegal to use animals for testing anywhere in the UK (and Europe) since 2009. In 2013 it will be illegal to purchase any such products in the UK no matter, what their source.

    Mike

    #400638
    freeradical
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    Voted to modify. Watched the race, didn’t enjoy it at all and this was before I heard the news about Synchronised and According To Pete. If people want to keep the race then reduce the field to 20. Too many horses were brought down today.

    #400644
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    after today, hated it, the fences are no longer wide enough with run outs on ends, the fences need to be wider to prevent horses cramming up falling and bringing more down, if not then reduce the number of runners in the field (the other races other national fences was more pleasent to watch), the canal turn, the rail also made the horses cram up more too the way its now been placed the alteratons made since 90’s they now seem to go to fast, and the speed is what kills sadly

    rip synch and pete

    vf

    #400648
    robnorth
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    Reduce the number of runners to 20.

    That will lessen the speed and there would be more room.

    I’d be interested to know how they arrive at the current safety limit as there’s certainly not room to get 40 around the Canal Turn.

    #400651
    vikingflagship
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    Reduce the number of runners to 20.

    That will lessen the speed and there would be more room.

    I’d be interested to know how they arrive at the current safety limit as there’s certainly not room to get 40 around the Canal Turn.

    ive just wrote to aintree and expressed my concerns like this especally the canal turn situation

    vf

    #400654
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    Modify.

    Reduce number of runners to 30, lessening the chance of being brought down. Also more room at fences and at the start. 40 is too many to get around Bechers, Foinavon and the Canal Turn, fences may be wide, but no horse has ever used the outside of the Canal Turn.

    Get rid of drop fences. They’ve been done away with at most courses (which is good) but that’s made it more difficult for horses when they do come accross drop fences. Therefore more fallers.

    Reverse the trend of "improving" drainage systems which may make waterlogging less likely… But it’s led to big meetings being run on firmer (or at least good) ground. Firmer the ground, the more risk.

    If they do nothing, I’ve had my last bet in the National, even if it was a winning one.

    Value Is Everything
    #400671
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    The race can only survive long term, imo, by the fences becoming standard park course fences.

    They are too unusual for most horses hence the opinion of many in racing "either they take to them or they don’t" Too many don’t I’m afraid and, at the risk of attracting the usual attacks when I raise it, RSPCA’s relationship with race and NH racing itself is now untenable imo.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

    #400672
    clivexx
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    Personally i am finding it harder and harder to watch each year and frankly wouldnt miss it at all

    #400676
    monksfield
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    Horses sadly lose their lives at Cheltenham, Meydan, Punchestown,Newmarket, Ascot and Epsom and on the gallops……let’s just outlaw all racing, shall we ?

    #400677
    Pat123
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    The numbers need to be reduced although 20 is probably too drastic, 30 should be the number next year and see how that works out. As has been said the crowding at Foinavon and the Canal Turn needs to be looked at and asking so many horses to bypass a fence with such a small gap to aim at is just asking for trouble. It’s only a matter of time before there is a pile up. Reducing the number of runners means you can reduce the width of the fences thus increasing the area with which to bypass the fence (if required).

    #400679
    sberry
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    This race should not be singled out, it accounts for less than a fraction of a single percent of equine deaths in racing, if today’s 2 trageies are unacceptable then so must all the others be.

    #400683
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    The race can only survive long term, imo, by the fences becoming standard park course fences.

    They are too unusual for most horses hence the opinion of many in racing "either they take to them or they don’t" Too many don’t I’m afraid and, at the risk of attracting the usual attacks when I raise it, RSPCA’s relationship with race and NH racing itself is now untenable imo.

    That’s not what your mate says Joe.
    Get rid of the drop fences and reduce it to 30 runners. Reversing so called "improvements" to the drainage system; so as to make softer ground more likely would (imo) also help.

    Hope readers of your blog backed the winner anyway. :wink:

    May be we should not judge the race so quickly and let the dust settle, before reaching conclusions.

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    #400684
    stilvi
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    Pretty sure I suggested reducing numbers the last time this was debated – don’t remember too much support for the idea at the time?

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