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Magnanimity
,at 25/1 and 30’s!When he finally reproduces his RSA run from last year,he wins a big race,patience is a virtue Tommy.I say it time and time again that if a horse produces something special (his RSA run) he WILL reproduce it again…………..Its just a case of WHEN???
Value Is EverythingGDC,
Fathom Five
went right off his racing last year but he runs off his lowest ever mark of 82 today,he’s actually weighted to beat
Jamesway
on their ‘Dash’ form easily,if ‘The Moores’ have him fresh and ready he wins!
Ginge,Magnanimity
is a horse I have always liked,but then again there isn’t many Gigginstown horses that I dont like,I have supported him on the machine at big prices but only to fivers,I’m not going to say I’m over confident but a place would do nicely! A repeat of his Irish national run upto the 3m point gives him a squeak!
Eclipse,Deep Purple
is the only horse I fear,he has the beating of ‘Tidal Bay’ on their Huntingdon form and his impressive victory round C/D to Saturdays makes impressive reading,why ‘Major Malarkey’ is fancied to beat him I have No idea! 16/1 is a solid e/w bet! Its about time you posted a bloody winner on here!
Now now KF, you’ll be expecting me to suggest that Boomerang Bob at 380 for the 2000 on the machine is worth a look then. There is some question about his participation at Newmarket but he looks nailed on to reverse placings with Caspar Netscher (who appears to need flat tracks to show his best which is likely to be at less than a mile).
Edit: Now available at 400 to £13!
Very strange results at Epsom Downs yesterday! The Gosden winner looked very good but what happened in the sprint! Can only put it down to a meeting to forget due to the ground!
KF: Any views on Parish Hall for the Derby? Nicely bred
KF: Any views on Parish Hall for the Derby? Nicely bred
Not as imposing as his sire
Teofilo
and not as flashy as
New Approach
but a similar sort to
Intense Focus
his time figure is closely matched with
Dr Devious
and his stamina packed breeding reminds me of
Sir Percys
,funnily enough all the above won the Dewhurst too,several went on to win the Derby,I think you’ll find I like his chances a lot GDC,his 2000gns run (2nd to
Camelot
) will see the 20/1 dissapear rapidly,particularly as he’ll beat the O’Brien wonder horse at Epsom,I believe
Parish Hall
was bred to win the Derby mate!
Time to get on!Now now KF, you’ll be expecting me to suggest that Boomerang Bob at 380 for the 2000 on the machine is worth a look then. There is some question about his participation at Newmarket but he looks nailed on to reverse placings with Caspar Netscher (who appears to need flat tracks to show his best which is likely to be at less than a mile).
Edit: Now available at 400 to £13!
Problem with that theory EF, is that Boomerang Bob is even less likely to be suited by a mile than Casper Netcher. John Hills only went for the Greenham because there wasn’t a 3yo conditions sprint worth going for. Boomerang Bob ran four times as a juvenile, all at the minimum trip, why? Although bred to get further, races asthough 7f will be his maximum. Travelled well at Newbury before bottoming out inside the final furlong.
Casper Netcher may be by sprinter Dutch Art, but the female line grand dam is Bella Colora, only just beaten in the 1000 Guineas by Oh So Sharp. The dam of Casper Netcher (Bella Cantata) also shares the great grand dam Reprocolour with 1000 Guineas and Oaks fancy Lyric Of Light and Ascot Gold Cup winner Kayf Tara. So there is some stamina in his pedigree. Bella Cantata is by Singspeil, a grandson of Kayf Tara’s sire Saddler’s Wells, so bred along the same lines.
Although far from certain to get a mile, Casper Netcher does stand "a" chance (I’d say around 25%) of doing so. Less if going puts emphasis on stamina.Value Is EverythingGord i remember you putting up Art Connoissur.To win the golden jubille i just saw entries i am shocked that STRONG SUIT is not given a entry.He would not win at a mile but he got course form and has a lot of pace i think he can be a group one sprinter this year.
Any thoughts on the gold cup at Ascot i think FAME AND GLORY will win.But i think this COLOUR VISION will run a stormer ran well behind him at Ascot champions day.But lackes the experiance of that horse.
And do you think IMPERIAL MONARCH will at Sandown this week am in 2 minds i think he can win.But i also feel he need the run to.
Although far from certain to get a mile, Casper Netcher does stand "a" chance (I’d say around 25%) of doing so. Less if going puts emphasis on stamina.
Are you trying to wind me up Ginge? 25%? How the **** do you come to that conclusion???
He’ll get a mile stood on his head!Gord i remember you putting up Art Connoissur.To win the golden jubille i just saw entries i am shocked that STRONG SUIT is not given a entry.He would not win at a mile but he got course form and has a lot of pace i think he can be a group one sprinter this year.
Any thoughts on the gold cup at Ascot i think FAME AND GLORY will win.But i think this COLOUR VISION will run a stormer ran well behind him at Ascot champions day.But lackes the experiance of that horse.
And do you think IMPERIAL MONARCH will at Sandown this week am in 2 minds i think he can win.But i also feel he need the run to.
Cant understand why connections haven’t entered
Bronterre
for the Golden Jubilee darren,he travels like a sprinter and looks like one,his Dewhurst shows he’s not a miler unlike
Power
,proper miler that one! y idea of the winner though is
Bated Breath
.
I’ve backedSt Nicholas Abbey
at 25/1 for the Gold Cup and also our
Masked Marvel
at 20/1.
Not really bothered whatImperial Monarch
does this week,he’s a watching brief for the future and like you say further!
KF: Hopefully off to Sandown tomorrow, fingers crossed!
I am after one horse and one horse only!
Before that I also will back:
200:
235:
310: I have backed
345: This is the one I think will perform under todays conditions and could even be Pricewise!Now now KF, you’ll be expecting me to suggest that Boomerang Bob at 380 for the 2000 on the machine is worth a look then. There is some question about his participation at Newmarket but he looks nailed on to reverse placings with Caspar Netscher (who appears to need flat tracks to show his best which is likely to be at less than a mile).
Edit: Now available at 400 to £13!
Problem with that theory EF, is that Boomerang Bob is even less likely to be suited by a mile than Casper Netcher. John Hills only went for the Greenham because there wasn’t a 3yo conditions sprint worth going for. Boomerang Bob ran four times as a juvenile, all at the minimum trip, why? Although bred to get further, races asthough 7f will be his maximum. Travelled well at Newbury before bottoming out inside the final furlong.
Casper Netcher may be by sprinter Dutch Art, but the female line grand dam is Bella Colora, only just beaten in the 1000 Guineas by Oh So Sharp. The dam of Casper Netcher (Bella Cantata) also shares the great grand dam Reprocolour with 1000 Guineas and Oaks fancy Lyric Of Light and Ascot Gold Cup winner Kayf Tara. So there is some stamina in his pedigree. Bella Cantata is by Singspeil, a grandson of Kayf Tara’s sire Saddler’s Wells, so bred along the same lines.
Although far from certain to get a mile, Casper Netcher does stand "a" chance (I’d say around 25%) of doing so. Less if going puts emphasis on stamina.In assessing Caspar Netscher’s pedigree you have gone too far into the Meon Valley Stud Book to give it any great relevance. An extended pedigree may give an idea of from whence ability is derived but it seldom defines stamina. His half brother Bronze Beau (Compton Place) was a sprinter, his other siblings have not amounted to much. Dutch Art was not a sprinter in the sense that Compton Place was, as a 3yo he ran well enough in the Guineas and St James’ Palace but it is probably best to say that he was better as a 2yo, how far his progeny will generally stay has yet to be established.
While he seemed to stay 7f well enough last week, he had a very hard race as his jockey seemed not overly concerned with the future (except for securing the ride in the Guineas). The major concern in his form is that he has shown an inability to handle undulations, that coupled with his suspect stamina makes Boomerang Bob (also given a more considerate ride after a long absence) more than likely to reverse placings at Newmarket.Gord any thoughts on the racing in Ireland and Sandown tomorrow
I think POET will win he loves the testing ground.RUBI LIGHT
SHADOW CATCHER my main bets in Ireland will put others up soon in my thread.Totally amazed
First Lieutenant
ran on ground as soft as that at Punchestown today! Totally flabbergasted he ran over 2m! As for going off fav? Unbelievable! Its common knowledge he hates soft ground as he struggles to jump out of it Quote Davy Russell prior to Cheltenham! This horse is a serious Gold Cup pretender for next year,granted the usual good ground he’s a major contender and my No 1 choice!
darren I think
Somersby
is a certainty tomorrow but I do agree that
Poet
will thrive on conditions,a repeat of his run against ‘Workforce’ and he wins imo!
Problem with that theory EF, is that Boomerang Bob is even less likely to be suited by a mile than Casper Netcher. John Hills only went for the Greenham because there wasn’t a 3yo conditions sprint worth going for. Boomerang Bob ran four times as a juvenile, all at the minimum trip, why? Although bred to get further, races asthough 7f will be his maximum. Travelled well at Newbury before bottoming out inside the final furlong.
Casper Netcher may be by sprinter Dutch Art, but the female line grand dam is Bella Colora, only just beaten in the 1000 Guineas by Oh So Sharp. The dam of Casper Netcher (Bella Cantata) also shares the great grand dam Reprocolour with 1000 Guineas and Oaks fancy Lyric Of Light and Ascot Gold Cup winner Kayf Tara. So there is some stamina in his pedigree. Bella Cantata is by Singspeil, a grandson of Kayf Tara’s sire Saddler’s Wells, so bred along the same lines.
Although far from certain to get a mile, Casper Netcher does stand "a" chance (I’d say around 25%) of doing so. Less if going puts emphasis on stamina.In assessing Caspar Netscher’s pedigree you have gone too far into the Meon Valley Stud Book to give it any great relevance. An extended pedigree may give an idea of from whence ability is derived but it seldom defines stamina. His half brother Bronze Beau (Compton Place) was a sprinter, his other siblings have not amounted to much. Dutch Art was not a sprinter in the sense that Compton Place was, as a 3yo he ran well enough in the Guineas and St James’ Palace but it is probably best to say that he was better as a 2yo, how far his progeny will generally stay has yet to be established.
While he seemed to stay 7f well enough last week, he had a very hard race as his jockey seemed not overly concerned with the future (except for securing the ride in the Guineas). The major concern in his form is that he has shown an inability to handle undulations, that coupled with his suspect stamina makes Boomerang Bob (also given a more considerate ride after a long absence) more than likely to reverse placings at Newmarket.I think you must have been watching a different Greenham than me EF.
Haven’t gone back "too far". Casper’s half brother Bronze Beau was indeed a sprinter, but he was as you say by Compton Place, a top class sprinter and sire of such horses as Borderlescott and Decon Blues. So there was every liklyhood of Bronze Beau being a sprinter.
And it is true that Casper’s sire Dutch Art was best as a sprinter. Although 2 lengths behind Cockney Rebel in the St James’s Stakes, the half a length second to Sakhee’s Secret in the July Cup was better form, and also better than his two year old form. Second also in the 6.5f Maurice De Gheest. Although didn’t win at 3, Dutch Art trained on well.
With both half brothers by influences for speed there is (I agree) aprobability
of Casper
failing
to stay a mile. Did appear not to stay a mile in America as a two year old, but that was after a long, hard season.
With a fair amount of stamina on the dam’s side, there is apossibility
that (unlike Bronze Beau) Casper might take more after the dam than sire. So there is a fair (
I estimate 25%
) chance of Casper Netcher
staying a mile
.
Value Is EverythingAlthough far from certain to get a mile, Casper Netcher does stand "a" chance (I’d say around 25%) of doing so. Less if going puts emphasis on stamina.
Casper might take more after the dam than sire. So there is a fair (
I estimate 25%
) chance of Casper Netcher
staying a mile
.
Right thats twice you’ve come out with that stupid comment! How do you come to that ridiculous figure of governing a horses chance of staying as a percentage? You Muppet! He either stays or he doesn’t you dick so it has to be a 50% chance its one or the other!
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