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July 29, 2008 at 19:40 #8529
A cracking days racing in prospect for Day 2 of this fine meeting.
1st race for me is the best of the week the 2m5f Handicap with horses being lined up with Big Macs Y Front elastic and looking like the kind of start you see at near by Plumpton and Fontwell.
La Vecchia Scuola who was 2nd over 2m at Ascot is a fair chance in a wide open looking race, Ryan Moore getting the leg up on former Ebor winner Mudawin is interesting and could sneak in the frame and Directors Digger for the Scudamores has three wins to his name at Haydock,Carlisle and Musselburgh to his credit including a win over 2m2f at the Lothian venue and aslong as he puts up with the posh accents as opposed to the tough Northern sound that he is used to on course should run a fair race.
In the Sussex Stakes all eyes are on Henrythenavigator and this looks an easy chance for the Ballydoyle yard to gain more of the UKs money and although Ravens Pass is the next best i cannot see him getting to him unless he bags the rail very quickly from stall six and hope Henry makes a horlicks at the start, I have seen Major Cadeaux win on course in both his runs at Sandown and Haydock this term but as i am not going to be their then he will not be winning plus the fact he gives Henry 8lbs.
The Sir Peter race looks like a fine event with a lot of improving middle distance types and is more of a watching brief but Colony is the sort of horse that Sir Michael keeps for a race like this and could go well before trying to get black type later in the season.
All in all some good racing plus the Galway Plate to complement it.
July 29, 2008 at 20:04 #175258Mudawin is on my little list of horses to back, the other two being Surface to Air [didn’t back] and Snoopy Loopy [didn’t back him either!]. for the sake of everyone who may be planning to back Mudawin perhaps I aught to not back him also…….
July 29, 2008 at 20:22 #175259No way of seeing past Henry but I wouldn’t play at the prices. It’s a strange course. I think Tariq will run into a place.
I like the Irish raider Ryehill Dreamer in the Vintage and think My Aunt Fanny looks a decent e/w bet in the 4.05.
July 29, 2008 at 20:35 #175260Hi all a few to tread carefully with tomorrow.
2.15 Tomina, 2.50 no reason why Firth of Fifth can’t go close again.
4.05 a recovery mission here with Trenchtown, and 4.40 Lee Miller.Over at Galway here’s hoping that the master of Ditcheat has left a space in his trophy cabinet as i can’t see past Oslot in the Plate.
Cheers.
Adrian.
July 29, 2008 at 21:27 #175262The pacemaker Windsor Palace does not look up to much.
With every other horse in the race usually held up these days, will they let him go?
Tariq won’t stay a truly run mile, Winker Watson is also a doubtful stayer, stable seems in poor form too.
Henry is always held up and so is Raven’s Pass, ditto Dream Eater.
Major Cadeaux has front run before but (if memory serves) has been held up lately. May be he is more likely to at least track the pacemaker. If I were Hughes I’d track the pace but try and back them up, ignoring the pacemaker. With the Major having a slight lead over his main rivals when the sprint comes.Am already on Raven’s Pass but do like Major Cadeaux too at current prices.
Mark
Value Is EverythingJuly 29, 2008 at 23:42 #175268Agree with most of that, Ginger.
I think Tariq was flattered by his proximity to others in the Lockinge due to the slow pace. He was poor at Ascot and has yet to prove he stays one mile, never mind a one mile in a Group 1 race.
Dream Eater looked a bit outpaced in the Jersey before staying on at the finish, even though connections thought that 7F would be his trip.
I’d want more evidence that Winker Watson is proprely fit before backing him in any race never mind something like the Sussex.
Major Cadeux did well to win last time out, despite the saddle slipping, though the race at Haydock and its Sandown win was nothing to get excited about. However, he’s becoming a price that could prove too tempting to refuse.
Fortune on Raven’s Pass… I’ve not been too enamoured with a number of Fortune’s rides on hold-up horses; but at six times the price of Henry I’m tempted to back him.
July 30, 2008 at 01:43 #175273AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Far from being flattered, I think Tariq was most unlucky in the Lockinge.
Denied a run at a vital moment, the horse had to weave his way through from the back at too late a stage for him to make a proper impact, and would certainly have given Creachadoir a race had he got out earlier.
His Queen Anne run was just too bad to be true, and certainly had nothing to do with a lack of stamina and, if PCH has him right again, I think he’s more likely to shake up HTN than either Raven’s Pass or Major Cadeaux.
Dependant on what his trainer says about his Ascot performance in the morning RP, I think he represents a cracking each way bet at the current 18/1.July 30, 2008 at 09:06 #175282I don’t really "fancy" Tariq, but I am puzzled as to why he is currently 32 on the betfair win market.
Goodwood is track where 7f horses can win over a mile (Court Masterpiece for example) and Tariq is a solid enough representative for the older milers. He is also proven as a top performer at this track.
We know Henry is the best 3yo, but we still don’t know how the 3yos stack up against the older horses (although the supsicion is they will prove to be superior) and we don’t know he will handle Goodwood. Yes he is by far the most likely winner, but he isn’t totally bombproof today imo.
July 30, 2008 at 09:26 #175289If Ravens Pass is asked a little earlier for an effort he’ll give Henrythenavigator a run for his money, he has been asked to do way to much way to late at his last 2 starts.
July 30, 2008 at 10:10 #175295Far from being flattered, I think Tariq was most unlucky in the Lockinge.
Denied a run at a vital moment, the horse had to weave his way through from the back at too late a stage for him to make a proper impact, and would certainly have given Creachadoir a race had he got out earlier.
His Queen Anne run was just too bad to be true, and certainly had nothing to do with a lack of stamina and, if PCH has him right again, I think he’s more likely to shake up HTN than either Raven’s Pass or Major Cadeaux.
Dependant on what his trainer says about his Ascot performance in the morning RP, I think he represents a cracking each way bet at the current 18/1.May be flattered is the wrong word Reet. Probably is as good as that race suggests, what I meant was as I don’t believe he gets a truly run mile. Was closer than he would’ve been had the pace been true. However with Tariq now 33/1 on Betfair have saved on him and a truly run race today is no certainty, they may ignore the pacemaker (who I have also backed). Now on 5 of the 7 runners to different degrees. Ones not backed are Henry and Winker.
Mark
P.S. Nice to see you going for a bit of value Reet
Value Is EverythingJuly 30, 2008 at 10:46 #1753012.50 no reason why Firth of Fifth can’t go close again.
At five times the price – any interest in Baycat on more suitable ground?
A 2YO race with a favourite who has not won gives me doubts over a winner amongst the fancied runners in the market, so I’m going long.
I’ll take Soul City at 20/1 with Ryan Moore now in the saddle.
July 30, 2008 at 10:55 #175304At five times the price – any interest in Baycat on more suitable ground?
.Why the devil not Myles. Put me down for two points. He was never travelling at ascot and looked much better than that previously.
July 30, 2008 at 11:39 #175310I would have thought the conditions are far more similar to Ascot today than the softish conditions that horse has won on before. Its breezy and hot down here at the moment
Suprises me that Savarain is double the price of Colony (more or less). Decent pull in weights after last clash between the two and stable going well of course
July 30, 2008 at 11:40 #175312i have a stamina issue with baycat too, but hes too smart to be 40-1 IMO and is a danger especially if the pace is slow.
July 30, 2008 at 12:03 #175314Thought that the best bet on the card could be Monkey Glas in the last. He’s become a different horse since put in a visor and looks to have been laid out of this value prize, Should be gifted an uncontested lead and could steal this.
July 30, 2008 at 12:14 #175315AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
May be flattered is the wrong word Reet. Probably is as good as that race suggests, what I meant was as I don’t believe he gets a truly run mile. Was closer than he would’ve been had the pace been true. However with Tariq now 33/1 on Betfair have saved on him and a truly run race today is no certainty, they may ignore the pacemaker (who I have also backed). Now on 5 of the 7 runners to different degrees. Ones not backed are Henry and Winker.
Mark
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Frankly I think it’s folly taking HTN on, this sharp mile on fast ground will be right up his street.
However, the name of the game is profit, and an each way bet on Tariq (Currently 25/1) will do nicely.P.S. Nice to see you going for a bit of value Reet
:lolI’d call it common sense, myself!
July 30, 2008 at 12:26 #175317Thought that the best bet on the card could be Monkey Glas in the last. He’s become a different horse since put in a visor and looks to have been laid out of this value prize, Should be gifted an uncontested lead and could steal this.
Could be a decent shout DJ. This looks ripe for a big priced win as none of the front few are convincing enough to be backed at the prices. I quite like Mujood at this track so will be backing him, but I think I’ll join you on the Monkey as well…
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