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4:20 Salisbury
41 points @ 4/1 (PP) Kinshasa* (min 4/1)saver:
16 points @ 11/2 (Sky) Fun Mgic (min 11/2)Value Is Everything4:20 Salisbury
41 points @ 4/1 (PP) Kinshasa* (min 4/1)saver:
16 points @ 11/2 (Sky) Fun Mgic (min 11/2)11/2 now gone with Sky but still there with Betbright and 6/1 available with Stan James.
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28 points each way @ 5/1 (FD) Three Robins* (min 9/2) (1/5th 1,2,3)Value Is Everything4:20 Salisbury
41 points @ 4/1 (PP) Kinshasa* (min 4/1)saver:
16 points @ 11/2 (Sky) Fun Mgic (min 11/2)Fun Magic now a non-runner:
59 points @ 9/4 (C) Hymenaois* (min 9/4)
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100 points @ Evens (C) Prize Exhibit* (min 10/11)Value Is Everything2:10 Salisbury
100 points @ Evens (C) Prize Exhibit* (min 10/11)saver:
14 points @ 15/2 (SJ) True Course (min 7/1)Value Is Everything3:45 Salisbury
43 points @ 11/2 (betfair) Miss Brazil* (min 5/1)(43 available)Value Is EverythingHi Ginge,
Out of interest did you hear the Frankie anecdote this morning on the morning line re: Hillstar…. he said he rode work on Estimate with Hillstar and Estimate ran all over him… Tom Segal and the others were then questioning his speed for this!!
Baynet
Hi Baynet, sorry for the belated response. Most of my views on Hillstar can be seen here:
https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=95833
Frankie’s comments were a negative, but not as much (imo) as the people made out. Estimate travelled really well throughout the Gold Cup (suggesting she’d be effective at shorter) and put up a career best performance. Had Estimate ran badly and/or needed to be pushed along early – it would’ve been a much stronger negative for Hillstar. ie The market over-compensated for Frankie’s comments making the horse (imo) "value". He pretty much ran how you’d expect from previous form and not like his supposed poor home work suggested. Proving speedy enough to come out on top of the rest and only beaten by an improved stable companion.
Value Is EverythingWhat do you think of cloudscapes performance? Just watched the race now and he Looked very good pre race and ran very well considering how keen he was right through, lost momentum when switched left final 2 furlongs, If this horse can settle he will do very well really impressed.
Again, sorry for the belated reply Sam.
Cloudscape was unlucky not to be second and you’re right, on looks is the type to go on to better things. Both Cloudscape and the winner Cannock Chase are quite a bit below Group 1 standard at the moment but wouldn’t be a surprise to see them run well in that grade given time. Former is (I believe) having a rest, but may be the Princess Of Wales (Group 2) at the July meeting at Newmarket could be a stepping stone for Cloudscape.
Value Is EverythingHi Ginge,
Out of interest did you hear the Frankie anecdote this morning on the morning line re: Hillstar…. he said he rode work on Estimate with Hillstar and Estimate ran all over him… Tom Segal and the others were then questioning his speed for this!!
Baynet
Hi Baynet, sorry for the belated response. Most of my views on Hillstar can be seen here:
https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=95833
Frankie’s comments were a negative, but not as much (imo) as the people made out. Estimate travelled really well throughout the Gold Cup (suggesting she’d be effective at shorter) and put up a career best performance. Had Estimate ran badly and/or needed to be pushed along early – it would’ve been a much stronger negative for Hillstar. ie The market over-compensated for Frankie’s comments making the horse (imo) "value". He pretty much ran how you’d expect from previous form and not like his supposed poor home work suggested. Proving speedy enough to come out on top of the rest and only beaten by an improved stable companion.
Yeah big run from estimate after a lay-off obviously laid out for it… and hillstar ran well when given the office to go!
2:55 Newmarket
55 points @ 4/1 (L) Sheikhzayedroad* (min 7/2)
45 points @ 7/2 (FD) Battalion* (min 7/2)Value Is Everything3:30 Newmarket
47 points @ 5/1 (PP) Gabriels Lad* (min 9/2)38 points @ 12/1 (FD) Top Notch Tonto* (min 17/2)
Value Is EverythingGood winner today with Sheikhzayed Road.
Going to get an early bet on for next Saturday:
Coral Eclipse
67 points @ 9/4 (B365) The Fugue* (min 85/40)Value Is EverythingGood winner today with Sheikhzayed Road.
The market got that race way wrong. I was on Battalion at 5/1 and couldn’t believe he went in to 9/4. Just about the first horse beat and he was cooked half a mile from home. Luckily Gregorian pulled it out of the fire for me on a day that saw my 4/1 Fascinating Rock in the betting without Australia collapse in to 5/4 after the non-runners.
Patting myself on the back for getting on early, anticipating that Kingston Hill wouldn’t run, and then expecting that the pacesetters would drop away leaving Fascinating Rock for second place, only to see him run like a turd sliding down the side of a toilet bowl.
An awful race, devoid of drama and a non-event as a spectacle. Embarrassing for racing really.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Good winner today with Sheikhzayed Road.
The market got that race way wrong. I was on Battalion at 5/1 and couldn’t believe he went in to 9/4. Just about the first horse beat and he was cooked half a mile from home. Luckily Gregorian pulled it out of the fire for me on a day that saw my 4/1 Fascinating Rock in the betting without Australia collapse in to 5/4 after the non-runners.
Patting myself on the back for getting on early, anticipating that Kingston Hill wouldn’t run, and then expecting that the pacesetters would drop away leaving Fascinating Rock for second place, only to see him run like a turd sliding down the side of a toilet bowl.
An awful race, devoid of drama and a non-event as a spectacle. Embarrassing for racing really.
Problem the Irish Derby has is (unlike the British Derby) it comes at a time where most three year olds have established their ability… And when there’s a horse proven good enough to win an average Irish Derby not many bother taking it on. Those British horses that aren’t quite ready for Epsom will run in the King Ed, and this race usually comes too soon after Ascot for them to double up. Made worse by Ballydoyle having so much of the middle-distance stock in Ireland. So few are able to take "The Boys" on.
Am kicking myself for throwing some money at Battalion myself Steve. They probably came for him due to the rain changing the race; but I felt it was more than just the ground at Newbury. Did you notice yesterday Ryan Moore kept him wide for the first part of the race and then took him wider still off the turn, away from the other front-runner? Eventually ending up on the far rail. I don’t think he was searching for better ground. At Newbury gave up once passed and has quite a bit of temperament. Early dominence is probably important to him. I knew Cameron Highland was another front-runner but took a chance. Doh!
Well done with Gregorian! I missed the fact he has a poor record first time out but a good one second time up (Doh again!)… and with Gosden in such good form should’ve had him at that price.
Getting good prices is half the battle Steve, keep it up and you’ll profit.
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