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  • #4708
    dave jay
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    .. have you been affected .. ??

    I was down in Hull last weekend and had to clear out my grandfathers house. The flood water was away but the whole place inside and out stunk of pish .. full streets with people’s belongings piled up in the garden .. once in every 400 years they said and now it’s happened again.

    So why has it happened, God punishing us for a decadent society, global warming .. no idea. I am personally in the ‘no idea’ camp.

    #108998
    Avatar photoAndrew Hughes
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    I may join in you in that camp, Dave, along with anyone who is being honest.

    If I hear one more witless radio presenter ask another weatherman if this is the effect of global warming, I shall emit a long warm blast of carbon dioxide and a string of expletives that would not be allowed on a forum like this.

    Witless presenter: Is this the effect of global warming?
    Weatherman: I really don’t know
    Witless presenter: And now here’s brainless with a travel update.

    (Copyright Radio Five)

    #109041
    Small Bear
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    the jet stream has moved, through climate change, and it’s affecting our weather…or something like that…saw it on the weather but wasn’t watching properly till it finished!!

    #109060
    dave jay
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    What about property prices .. this could be as devastating as the second world war, a blessing in disguise maybe ?

    I read that about the Jetstream .. I would have thought that that would be there all of the time though, more made up pseudo-science ?

    I reckon someone, soemwhere is doing a rain-dance.

    #109063
    Kingston Town
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    Well obviously I’m not affected being here (I do feel sorry for those that are) but if I was in my tiny stone cottage in Booze then I’d be ok as it looks down into the Dale, there’d have to be an awful lot more rain to affect it. :lol:

    #109065
    Small Bear
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    the whole climate change thingy hasn’t really run it’s course yet…still trying to get to the bottom of it…but ocean temperature is rising and that seems to have affected the stream….

    from the met office…
    not that it make encoraging reading…sounds more like they are preparibng us to be unhappy for a while!!

    METEOROLOGISTS have blamed Britain’s wet summer on the unusual position of the jet stream, a belt of fast-moving air 36,000ft above the earth that controls the movements of bad-weather systems.

    During most summers the jet stream lies across the north Atlantic, effectively penning bad weather there and in the Greenland Sea so that only Iceland and Scandinavia are affected by them.

    This allows anti-cyclones, the high-pressure weather systems associated with warm, sunny summer weather, to move up from Europe to cover Britain.

    This year, however, the jet stream has moved several hundred miles to the south. This has allowed depressions, the low-pressure weather systems that bring storms and heavy rain, to batter Britain.

    The situation has been made worse by the hot and sunny weather systems lying over much of central and south eastern Europe. These interact with depressions to generate the storms and cloudbursts behind the recent floods.

    Why, though, has the jet stream shifted southwards? Scientists are not sure of all the reasons but believe there is a link to a natural phenomenon known as La Niña.

    This occurs when cool water surges up from the bottom of the Pacific off Peru. The water cools the air above it, setting off a series of changes in the Earth’s atmospheric circulation.

    Other factors appear to be at work too. One of them could be the warming of the Atlantic. Matt Huddleston, principal climate change consultant at the Met Office, said such conditions were one of the effects of climate change.

    #109097
    Kebab
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    Maybe we might get some proper jumping ground at Cheltenham for the first meeting of the year in October ?

    #109108
    Avatar photoDrone
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    but if I was in my tiny stone cottage in Booze then I’d be ok as it looks down into the Dale,

    The booze at Tan Hill is good

    #109109
    dave jay
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    Why, though, has the jet stream shifted southwards? Scientists are not sure of all the reasons but believe there is a link to a natural phenomenon known as La Niña.

    La Niña is a 7 year cycle thing (or something and concerns ocean currents) if this was tied in with that sort of phenomena then that would mean that the Gulf Stream would move also .. which would be dire for the racing fixtures over the next millenia or so.

    Let’s hope that they are wrong, all we can do in the meantime, is keep recycling the cans.

    If this is a global warming problem, they should immediately introduce and import tax of around 200% on all manufactured goods to reduce the effects of Globalisation.

    #109111
    Avatar photoAndrew Hughes
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    Don’t be silly, Dave. Global warming is a VERY SERIOUS ISSUE requiring an awful lot of soundbites and publicity photos. It doesn’t mean we actually have to change anything. Economies around the world can go on growing forever and ever and as long as we remember to insert the word green into everything we say, things will turn out okay in the end.

    #109113
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    i believe this global warming is tosh made up by nerdy boffins to keep themselves in jobs – did the dinosaurs die out because they caused reverse global warming by farting too much methane into the atmosphere and did caveman global warm the ice age away by learning how to make fire and burning too many things ?

    no, it is called evolution and over the lifetime of this planet it will get hotter and colder from time to time

    ;)

    #109116
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    Oh thank God for that, Simon.

    I’ve been worried sick these past months by the apocalyptic deforestation of the planet, meltdown levels of species extinction, unusual seismic activity, La Nina, global economic interests, the Biofuel Dilemma, the negation of Malthus, acceletating population growth, increased methane emissions from the sea bed, global cooling and exponential ozone decay.

    Now, thanks to you, I know it’s all complete bollocks!! Cheers!! :D

    #109117
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    thats ok, glad to be of service – and another reason not to waste time worrying or trying to change things is that it will happen anyway regardless of what happens, so – chin up and onwards with a smile, don’t look back

    blind optimism really is the way forward

    ;)

    #109118
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    blind optimism really is the way forward

    LOL. I hope you’re wrong, I really do.

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    #109123
    dave jay
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    Quite a good article Simon, the only problem with it is that it says you should be more worried about terrorisim than global warming which is a bit of a joke .. how can you believe in one and not the other, it’s all lies.

    If it rained like it has for a few years and was really cold at the same time it would cause another ice age.

    #109167
    Avatar photoMaxilon 5
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    Dear Simon,

    Just a quick note to say thanks for the natter last night. You got me thinking about community participation vs the nihilist approach. I was so convinced that there is something that we can all do to save the planet, that I rang a friend of mine who manages a training centre for adults and discussed the issue.

    And I got some freelance environmental education work out of it.

    She was so impressed by my passionate belief that your conclusion is flawed, that I’m being paid to set up a series of “green” seminars for local residents. Just simple stuff, nice and basic. A minimum of statistics and zeal, a maximum of practical steps.

    It will make a change from horse racing anyway – too much of a good thing gets us all in the end – and who knows, if I take to it I might eventually save a species out in Jakarta or something.

    Do you know what clinched the deal? Laptops and shampoo.

    If 50% of us repaired our laptops instead of immediately buying another one, then we might save 10000 acres of virgin rainforest from being felled due to demand deflation. It’s that simple. Demand management.

    And if we all shampooed our hair three times a week instead of seven, we might not need quite so many palm oil plantations to supply the ingredients. There’s another seven species of plant saved. And some baboons.

    And eventually, the climate might just get back to normal. Who knows. it can’t hurt but to try, can it?

    Basic? Forrest Gump logic if you ask me. I’m an indifferent horseplayer, not a scientist. But this kind of consumption change is what they’re teaching the kids in schools – and they’re our only hope. The journey to save the world begins with a single step from each of us.

    Regards

    Max

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