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Im sure both gentlmen would be delighted to know how many posts this thread has, this just shows how controversial they were! Like them or hate them the forum was a better place with them!
Its sad to know you have to watch exactly what you say on forums such as this, given they are designed for the purpose of airing ones views. We all understand about the legality and slander issues a forum such as this may have, but one would hope you would have to be pretty extreme to get the boot!!
Having only ever had one post taken down before in the lounge section, which I was pretty annoyed about at the time, Im glad I wasnt banned too!!
Not been able to speak your honest mind is not only a sad reflection of the forum, but at our modern day cotton wool society as a whole!!
I was born too late!!
Finely worded sentiments
Himself and clarity
from the abrasive Fitzer.
Cormack I will not try to defeat
your logic while the funeral
cortege passes slowly by us
Instead I’ll leave it for the
morrow and hope you sleep
on feather with a whisky
and without fuss.Let the giants sleep I say
and let out hearts rule us
not our heads
and let us remember their words
as they slowly rot away
inches beneath the nostrils
of their nose up masters
in gold encrusted beds
as crows gather
the news to spreadThe reds are finally dead
The fact that someone posted this thread and it gathered so many opinions says a lot.
In a way, it says what was good was bad and what was bad was good.
Listen, if Corm can use "entropy" I can damn well spout a pile of pseudo-intellectual sh*t!
I too wondered what the hell had happened to those guys. They were entertaining IMHO.
I know dem are da rulz, but I personally feel the forum is less colourful without them – and they did make some good points. Sometimes it’s OK to have a scrap in a playground – just best not to get involved
If the playground becomes too unpleasant for others, and stymies new members from joining – then yes, naughty boys should be warned and I guess ultimately expelled.
Hope they may be allowed back to class in the future if they promise to be good, though.
Zip
Ps,
So what did you mean by entropy, Corm? I was big enough to Google it, but not big enough to work out which meaning of the word you were using
Yes, some valid points on here and Gamble you made me lol, Thank
you, but I will still MISS them.Thank you for your views Fist,TAPK good luck for the future.
Had the community involved more female posters, both members might still be here.
All-male message boards tend to be notorious bloodbaths. How many of you are part of a football message board? (e.g. the MAD network.) Most of them are horrible places to visit. My own club’s message board is one of the worst.
With the exception of the trolls and the Lazari (
) the more peaceful forums have plenty of female posters because all the c**k comparison contests are toned down out of respect.I can think of five or six similar Alpha Male posters who’ve been banned in the last five years, it’s nothing new. I’m sure more will arise to take their place but for now, I’m enjoying the peace and quiet.
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I still fail to see why the only censure seemingly open to this forum is complete excommunication?
Moderation
should mean just that, imo, and TAPK was allowed (nay, encouraged) to blight many a discussion, for many a month, with his shameless self-advertising, yet one small excess in a different direction and it’s ‘off with his head’.
Surely there’s room somewhere for a 1 week, or 1 month, ban?I still fail to see why the only censure seemingly open to this forum is complete excommunication?
It isn’t Reet – Fist had been banned before and TAPK and I had exchanged several bouts of messages on previous occasions. They were given every opportunity – what else can I do when people fail to take any notice?
Yes, Fitzer, you do have to be extreme to get the boot and, thankfully, it very rarely happens.
I’m using the word ‘entropy’ to denote disorder/chaos GetZippy
This is an end of an era
the era of the large
knobbly shouldered poster
the force majeure
the galacticos of rollerball
who gave inexorable vent
to vendettas and vices
in disregard to
the the mildly meek
musing majority.I must thank the
end of an era men
for their zealously huge
footprints in the sand
.Message Boards like the Internet they’re jocked-up on are a still-maturing form of communication. The novelty of the new (tautology?) will inevitably inspire and galvanise. Ten years on, familiarity and the wearying effects of repetition inevitably means few banged-up at the start of the brave new millennium will have withstood the ten-stretch
The thoughtful, confident Shakespeareans are always likely to tire first as the brainy bore easily, and will quietly turn their backs with no more than a quiet two-fingered waft.
The insecure attention-seeker for whom the message board has been a blessing above all blessings will shake rattle and roll-off 10^x posts of me myself I until he too bores of it all; his boredom manifesting itself as a boiling-over of the blood and an unhealthy mix of invective, libel and angry emoticons. Followed by a banishment to cyberpurgatory by those tuff enuff but altruistically daft enuff to moderate the ramblings of a large disparate collection of anonymous cybersouls from all points of the compass and far beyond
The Times Letters’ Page matured sometime prior to 1850; hence we know what to expect in that house and can safely forecast that its deep foundations, immaculately pointed brickwork and handsome sash windows will continue to provide a comfortable home
The Message Board is new-build from new experimental material: Jerry-built or what? Who knows?
The end of an era Gamble? Maybe
The end of an era that couldn’t last? Yep
Big dinosaurs leave their footprints fossilised in the sand. For those with virtual hammer and chisel this last ten years has been a collector’s paradise
Roll over Beethoven, tell Tchaikovsky the news
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A lot of you are showing total disregard for Cormack in this thread which quite disappointing especially from the elder statesmen.
If TRF was to be closed tomorrow you wouldn’t find this kind of infrastructure elsewhere, there’s not another community or website like it that provides for Racing fans yet people still want to complain and leave the forum when members go absent or are dismissed.
People come and go all the time it’s only fair that we as a community give Cormack back something in return and it’s not sitting on our arses at night browsing refusing to post because our mate has been dismissed, if every person put in 30 minutes of thought and constructive posts per day you’d soon forget about those that had left and begin to look towards the future.
I’ve only seen about 3-4 people actually contributing in a manner that wants to get a good discussion going, it’s time some of you pulled your socks up and started getting involved again and stopped the crying, you’re grown men/women.
:lol: ^^
Can’t believe for second that the banning of Fist and TAPK has somehow encouraged some obviously feint-hearted lurkers to start actually posting.
TAPK was always tongue in cheek at worst, and guilty of giving as good as he got, if anything, to those that either didn’t
get
his style of bolshy, braggy posts or the
very
easily riled.
Shame.
Actually, in my experience, it does start to encourage people to come out of the woodwork. When you have dominant and aggressive posters, they tend to unnerve those who might have something to contribute but don’t want to find themselves in a playground scrap.
There is truth in both the above posts but do readers want to read the brilliance of TAPK accompanied unfortunately with his arrogant conceitedness or do they want to read the likes of Maxillon 5 who has a far more laid back approach,personally i love to read all and i could lose myself in one of Fists contributions,his knowledge of the sport is outstanding.
So outstanding that because Trabolgan carried 11:12 to win the Hennessey and Denman did the same Fist thought that meant they were rated the same?
Both made interesting points from time to time, but the sheer volume of tat meant it was the right decision, in my humble opinion.
I for one were sick to the back teeth of reading how one or both of the two had "spotted" the likes of Canford Cliffs, Binocular and Zarkava first. Like my children arguing over whom was holding a toy first. "Look-at-me", egostistical bullshitting of the top order.
Mr Wilson , thanks for the pep talk , in fact thanks for nothing
The way that so many posters are taking issue with Corm in a civil manner shows just how much they respect the forum
Maybe its time you sat back and extracted yourself from the morass of self gratification and smell the coffee of the real world
More discourse is good , just wonder though if a temporary ban would be better than a total exclusion , however the buck stops with Corm and at the end of the day we have to abide by his ruling , until the forum is in new hands and then see how different it might be
End of an era it certainly is , but perhaps the new era may be better , we should at least hope for that …I wonder if its time to start a new forum for dissidents only
Ricky
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Others besides myself may recall with a shudder the unmoderated Newsgroup
uk.sport.horseracing
. It started rather well, but with fifty tipster spammers plus half a dozen serial trolls added to the mix it’s little wonder that the whole thing degenerated quickly into a passable imitation of a hundred mad cats in a sack. I don’t suppose anyone much bothers with it now.
Moderation is a thankless, tough and round the clock job. Clear rules help, but there will always be an element of subjectivity about who’s banned and who’s not. That’s life.
Excellent last two posts on this thread.
I do think the vast majority of us show respect and appreciation to Corm and team for what they do. Yes, many of us could post more – but this doesn’t mean that our heated debate on the Fist/TAPK subject is right/wrong.
The fact we are all discussing our passionate feelings articulately is great, and refreshing for the net. I’ve been on a forum where the person who ran it was a moron (wasn’t a bloke, either!!!!) (lawsuit to follow). I chose to leave, as many others did.
The wonderful thing about this place is there is common sense and latitude for us all to vent ourselves, and we can be earthy about it too.
It’s not a prissy, over reverential environment, which makes it very appealing to moi and perhaps others (?).
I feel the communication in the community is healthy and vibrant….and this appears to be encouraged by the team that runs it.
Long live TRF!!!!!
OK, that was over the top….but can I have a free TRF T shirt?
Zip
All I can say about Fist is that he spotted Binocular as the Champion hurdler right from the beginning [and stuck by that view even when it looked to all intents and purposes to be incorrect], he told us that Kauto Star was one of the greatest horses he had ever seen and he kept telling us that Don’t Push It would stay over three miles and that he WOULD win the Grand National. Maybe all of the anger and backbiting went over my head because I’ve always felt it takes two to make an arguement and, being non confrontational myself I always found Fist and Gord to be very pleasant on a personal level. I do understand what Corm has done, and I realise there were things going on that we didn’t know about, but I very much miss their views on the big races. Moderation is probably one of the most thankless tasks of the modern era; bit like a social worker [actually, very much like a social worker!].
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Rules are for the guidance of wise men, and strict observance by fools.
(Douglas Bader
)
) the more peaceful forums have plenty of female posters because all the c**k comparison contests are toned down out of respect.
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