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I don’t think it would matter what jockey rode him, the issue is in the horse’s head and I don’t think he has time on his side to be brought back to a place where his confidence is going to allow him to just fully commit to seeing a long stride without stepping at it.
Schooling at home clearly isn’t an issue but as soon as he is on a racecourse under race conditions and meets the hurdle on a long stride he reverts back to stepping on it.
Ruby on ITV’s analysis segment showed a close up of Nico’s hands going into that hurdle and you could clearly see him ask the horse to come up (and it wasn’t off a particularly over long stride either), so he wasn’t sending the wrong signal at all to the horse but you can clearly see the horse start to come up and then change his mind and step on the hurdle.
The only thing they could do differently I suppose would possible be to treat him like they would with a new novice they are training to jump hurdles for the first time and try to get him to re-learn how to jump again…….but as I said that would take a lot of time and also you would really be none the wiser to if it has worked until you risk running him in another hurdle race.
They are almost at the bottom of the barrel with him now and it is desperately sad especially when you consider where he is now compared to the heights he reached in his pomp.
HDLG the horse was clearly unwell at Punchestown so can’t really judge Bowen there. He still didn’t fall though. The only occasion in his last 4 runs and Nico wasn’t onboard.
I very much doubt he is going to run over hurdles again, so talk of who is going to ride him is academic.
I’m not so sure about Cobden. First of all he’d have to spend some time an Hendo’s yard and he’s a bit of a version of a peak STD. Sometimes above him, sometimes below him.
If they’d be so much in love with Cobden why not considering moving the horse to Nicholls? Of course, that would never happen with Buckley as an owner.
Two other jockeys I might consider would be Gavin Sheehan, who can really ride, if he wants to and maybe young Freddie Gordon.Is JP happy about Jonbon making the regular mistakes at Cheltenham when ridden by Nico?
What a waste though Cork. He’s only 8 going on 9 and to throw the rest of his career away just because it might hurt Nico’s feelings is absolutely crazy. Rooster Booster and Hurricane Fly were champions at 9yo so there’s no reason this boy can’t be either.
Jockeys get jocked off on the flat all the time for far less and they just get on with it. After falling 3 times in a row on the horse, surely Nico can be reasonable here and not throw the toys out of the pram.
I thought Davy Russell was harshly treated at times but he just kept his head down and got on with it.I think this is absolutely crazy to be honest. So The owner Michael Buckley is never going to see his great horse in a hurdle race again just because Nico is the only man allowed to ride him. That’s insane.
Give someone else a try and then if it doesn’t work out, you can retire him at least knowing you tried everything.Here is a short clip of his sole PTP run with a pretty bad mistake at the last that eventually cost him the race:
“Here is a short clip of his sole PTP run”
Do we have any footage of when you believed in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus?You think it’s a fake, Gladders? Couldn’t find more on YT, but the source seems reliable. Like all my sources
“Surely Nico can be reasonable here and not throw the toys out of the pram.”
I think De Boinville often seems rather arrogant when interviewed. I don’t believe he would take kindly to being jocked off his star horse.
“Is JP happy about Jonbon making the regular mistakes at Cheltenham when ridden by Nico?”
Jonbon made the worst mistake of his life at Cheltenham…under James Bowen.
“Rooster Booster and Hurricane Fly were champions at 9yo so there’s no reason this boy can’t be either.”
Rooster Booster won the County the previous season then finished 4th in the G1 at Aintree.
In his Champion Hurdle winning season he won all 4 of his races before the Festival.Hurricane Fly’s only defeat the previous season was a 3rd in the Champion Hurdle, and the season he won it aged nine his runs beforehand were the Morgiana, Christmas G1 at Leopardstown and the Irish Champion hurdle which he won by 12, 7 and 5 lengths respectively.
If anything he needs to change yards + have a different experience. Won’t happen and he shouldn’t be faced with another obstacle in his life.
Nico for me keeps things simple often and is a good jockey..
Anadam disappointed me here, bridle horse.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I felt the same Jack , Mullins has said he thinks he’ll have learnt plenty but he has loads to find on that , as for CH guys it doesn’t matter what age he is he can’t jump hurdles anymore …
“Jesus what’s the love in for Cobden , he’s hardly Ruby , all I’ve heard since Sat is excuses , it’s the horse guys he’s lost his nerve , you can say what every you want he’s done”
Unfortunately the likes of McCoy, Dunwoody, Walsh, Geraghty, Francome, Scudamore, King and plenty of others have long since retired so we are stuck with the current bunch. Can’t see how De Boinville can ride the horse again, he’s lucky to have done as well as he has, due to being stable jockey to Henderson. Can’t be long before he retires surely?
I wouldn’t even entertain retiring the horse on what we know. Try a better jockey and see what happens.I’ll repeat F5FF , that’s the recent form , people are talking as if he’s the greatest horse to ever run , he was a talented horse however we haven’t seen this for a long time , we are at the point now where there’s a lot more to lose than gain here
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