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Fallon – It’s rather sad really

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  • #491702
    Coggy
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    In the last month Fallon has had 2 rides for bin Suroor (both losers). Meanwhile in the same period the yard has had 21 winners in the U.K., ridden by the likes of Hughes, Doyle, Tylicki, Moore, Stott, O’Neill, de Sousa, Lee, al Subousi, and Lawson.
    That said he is declared on one for the yard later this week.

    #491712
    judgey
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    He was due to ride at ayr on gold cup day but never showed up, I didn’t hear why, but one of the rides was for godolphin in a listed race and graham lee subsequently picked up the spare and won on it!i don’t know what happened there

    #491725
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    He’s still ridden over a million quid in prize money this year, again, as he has done for 16 out of the last 17 years – over 40 million quid won during those past 17 years and that’s not counting any rides outside the UK

    Most jockeys would give their legs for those numbers

    #491756
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    Why does he plead poverty then

    #492184
    Coggy
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    In the last month Fallon has had 2 rides for bin Suroor (both losers). Meanwhile in the same period the yard has had 21 winners in the U.K., ridden by the likes of Hughes, Doyle, Tylicki, Moore, Stott, O’Neill, de Sousa, Lee, al Subousi, and Lawson.
    That said he is declared on one for the yard later this week.

    He rode a second string for Godolphin that placed third to an easy Godolphin winner ridden by Tylicki at Newmarket, and then another Godolphin runner today that finished last.
    Last winner for anybody on 18 September at Pontefract.
    No further declared rides for Godolphin.

    #492505
    Coggy
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    Apparently off to California to try to reinvigorate his career and get the "buzz" back.
    Admits that he doesn’t have much to come back to.
    Hasn’t ruled out retiring altogether if he can’t make a go of it.
    Bemoans his lack of big race rides and weekend winners.

    #492537
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    Apparently off to California to try to reinvigorate his career and get the "buzz" back.
    Admits that he doesn’t have much to come back to.
    Hasn’t ruled out retiring altogether if he can’t make a go of it.
    Bemoans his lack of big race rides and weekend winners.

    He’s a brave man. A New York Times investigation last year found that the number of horses dying/breaking down – mostly because of the use of painkillers masking injury – were making a jockey’s life especially dangerous.

    The failure of regulators to stop that cheating is reflected in the numbers. Since 2009, records show, trainers at United States tracks have been caught illegally drugging horses 3,800 times, a figure that vastly understates the problem because only a small percentage of horses are actually tested.

    In the same period, according to the Times analysis, 6,600 horses broke down or showed signs of injury. Since 2009, the incident rate has not only failed to go down, it has risen slightly.

    The greatest number of incidents on a single day — 23 — occurred last year on the most celebrated day of racing in America, the running of the Kentucky Derby. One Derby horse fractured a leg, as did a horse in the previous race at Churchill Downs. All told, seven jockeys at other tracks were thrown to the ground after their horses broke down.
    A state-by-state survey by The Times shows that about 3,600 horses died racing or training at state-regulated tracks over the last three years.

    In one 13-day stretch of racing in 2010 at Sunland Park Racetrack and Casino in New Mexico, nine horses died racing, five were hauled away in ambulances and two jockeys were hospitalized, one in critical condition.

    #492538
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    Apparently off to California to try to reinvigorate his career and get the "buzz" back.
    Admits that he doesn’t have much to come back to.
    Hasn’t ruled out retiring altogether if he can’t make a go of it.
    Bemoans his lack of big race rides and weekend winners.

    He’s a brave man. A New York Times investigation last year found that the number of horses dying/breaking down – mostly because of the use of painkillers masking injury – were making a jockey’s life especially dangerous.

    The failure of regulators to stop that cheating is reflected in the numbers. Since 2009, records show, trainers at United States tracks have been caught illegally drugging horses 3,800 times, a figure that vastly understates the problem because only a small percentage of horses are actually tested.

    In the same period, according to the Times analysis, 6,600 horses broke down or showed signs of injury. Since 2009, the incident rate has not only failed to go down, it has risen slightly.

    The greatest number of incidents on a single day — 23 — occurred last year on the most celebrated day of racing in America, the running of the Kentucky Derby. One Derby horse fractured a leg, as did a horse in the previous race at Churchill Downs. All told, seven jockeys at other tracks were thrown to the ground after their horses broke down.
    A state-by-state survey by The Times shows that about 3,600 horses died racing or training at state-regulated tracks over the last three years.

    In one 13-day stretch of racing in 2010 at Sunland Park Racetrack and Casino in New Mexico, nine horses died racing, five were hauled away in ambulances and two jockeys were hospitalized, one in critical condition.

    Thanks Steeplechasing.
    That’s equally sad, disturbing, and informative.
    What a terrible indictment on the sport.

    #492552
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    Things must be bad for Kieren he has only earned

    £7,868,548.82

    for connections in the past 5 years.

    It must be really hard on the jockeys, trying to scratch a living on the minimum wage :shock:

    #492598
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    Says he might be off to California as there is nothing here for him.
    Hooray
    The sonner the better.

    #492796
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    If fallon had of been on night of thunder today he would have won, great ride he gave toormore who ran a fine race. can’t understand how he is not being used by more trainers to ride in the big races, especiallly when you see some of the pretenders that they are putting up on their horses

    #492797
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Judgey, would you employ a thoroughly unpleasant man with a history of drug usage and unsavoury behaviour?

    If you forgive and forget all that, would you employ that man if he has just admitted to riding poorly in the second half of this season? Maybe? What if he says that he lacks the desire to keep riding in this country?

    Through his history and his own admissions, Fallon is an inherently unprofessional person riding some way short of his peak ability, who isn’t really committed to what he’s doing. Not the greatest CV to land on a potential employer’s doormat, is it?

    #492798
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Well said ‘TYF’ thats a fair assessment of Fallon.What struck a chord with me is his quote of ‘He’s got nothing here to stay for’..er Your Kids for a start Kieran and your friends including fellow Jockeys.Strange guy! :roll:

    #492799
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    He’s a complex character, that’s for sure. But you know, if you had a horse in a race with your life on the line depending on the result and you had to choose a current professional to ride it, I’d be tempted to go for him or Moore. Probably the latter, but I’d hate to have KF against me that’s for sure.

    #492802
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    He’s a complex character, that’s for sure. But you know, if you had a horse in a race with your life on the line depending on the result and you had to choose a current professional to ride it, I’d be tempted to go for him or Moore. Probably the latter, but I’d hate to have KF against me that’s for sure.

    I had him on

    Toormore

    today Corm,he struggled to settle the horse but no other jockey would have finished a yard in front of him,he let Hughsie go round him and then cut him up which cost them 2nd place.Had ‘Toormore’ settled he could have won today,he will beat both the 1st and 2nd next year as he’s way more scope still.I was pleased to see for the first time this season the horse I thought he was.

    #492832
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    Sure all of the above observations are made from a personal knowledge of K Fallon….

    Please be very specific of his unprofessional behaviour….

    I saw the glint in his eye was shining more than brightly when he jumped of Charlie Hills horse at Wolvers on Thursday.

    #492833
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    Sure all of the above observations are made from a personal knowledge of K Fallon….

    Please be very specific of his unprofessional behaviour….

    I saw the glint in his eye was shining more than brightly when he jumped of Charlie Hills horse at Wolvers on Thursday.

    You expect more specific comments in response to "I saw the glint in his eye shining more than brightly" – really ?
    I note some of your earlier quotes this season on this thread.
    Look at his record for all trainers (not just bin Suroor) over the last 3 months, and you think that this is someone at the top of his game ?
    If you want those stats I can post them for you.
    As for anyone thinking that his Toormore ride today was something to be admired – Both Hannon horses received shocking rides in my view.
    Regarding having him riding for me or against me, I would look not just to the future but to the present. If anyone thinks that Fallon could change whip hand 3 times in a driving finish like Doyle did today in the Champion, then they are deluded.
    I think that the lady is singing for Fallon, but I do have concerns for him.

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