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  • #477919
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Good to see Fallon back in the big time. :)

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    #477959
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    Big Two Fingers to the naysayers. King Kieren reigns :) As said on C4 he’s the first to get his horse rocking and rolling and keeps them going. Chuffed for him.

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    Only 2 rides again today at Lingfield at 50s and 66s, finishing last and next to last.
    Whilst I understand that he has alienated many (and as previously stated, I am by no means his greatest fan), but he was a decent standard champion in his prime. He may not have been as good as Piggott or Eddery, but his current position is in my opinion no way for him to be continuing.
    Each to their own though.
    Give it up Kieren, in my view.

    Maybe you should drop him a post card tomorrow?

    #477965
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    a winner no-one could find except his owners and a line of greatly enriched bookies. It’s what makes racing so very attractive to the wider public.

    I’m sure TRF correspondents Moehat, Big G and Stevecaution found the race very attractive

    And unbelievably, as far as I’m aware they’re not the owners of Night Of Thunder nor do they have a hotline to the inside information purred by the stable cat :roll:

    Please see the latter pages of:

    https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=94124

    Glad three people found it. That, of course, overturns my point entirely.

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    Glad three people found it. That, of course, overturns my point entirely.

    Three people from one post on one sub-section of one racing forum?

    It certainly does!

    Mike

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    Today he Short heads Ryan Moore on a nice Godolphin maiden.
    Yes, he’s at rock bottom isn’t he???

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    From the Guardian:

    ….but it was Kieren Fallon who emerged from Guineas weekend as the biggest winner, and with another high-profile engagement to anticipate as the Flat season moves on towards Epsom.

    Fallon, who won the 2,000 Guineas on Night Of Thunder on Saturday took a minor race on Elite Gardens for Godolphin’s Saeed bin Suroor, and the trainer later confirmed that Fallon will take over from Silvestre de Sousa on True Story, a live contender for the Derby, when he runs in the Dante Stakes at York next week.

    "Kieren is one of the best jockeys," Suroor said after Elite Gardens’ victory. "I’m happy to give him a chance in all the big races. He rode True Story today on the gallops and he gave me good information. He’s going to ride him in the Dante."

    De Sousa has been Suroor’s principal jockey since Frankie Dettori lost his job as Godolphin’s No1 rider in the autumn of 2012, and he rode the trainer’s African Story to win the Dubai World Cup, the world’s richest race, in March. He also rode True Story to an impressive success in the Fielden Stakes at Newmarket’s Craven meeting in April, but the news that Fallon will replace him in the Dante suggests that Godolphin are already thinking two steps ahead to Epsom, and want to secure a jockey whose record at the demanding downland track is second to none.

    It also suggests that De Sousa can no longer be sure of the ride on Suroor’s main contender for a major race. While Godolphin has adopted a loose structure with regard to riding arrangements since Dettori’s departure, with no overall No1 jockey, Fallon has quickly become a significant part of Suroor’s operation and now seems to be the rider among the Godolphin team whose star is on the ascendant.

    Fallon has won the Derby four times, and has talked in the past of an affinity he feels for the track as similar to that of Dettori’s love for Ascot. The likelihood that he will be aboard True Story at Epsom to attract the attention of punters.

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    Intriguing Guardian piece ……….I think the Hollywood producers might need a call if Fallon really does end up as anything like 1st jockey to Godolphin.An incredible career.

    Night Of Thunder should never have been 40-1…a shock that he reversed with Kingman yes but unbeaten until then with a documented good home reputation and no surprise to see him in the frame.

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    Seems like the Sheik has been advised hands off.Less danger of being involved when the S**t hits the fan.Saeed bin Suroor knows what it is to have a guy without any experience taking his No1 training spot.Perhaps he is not worried about ones personal problems if they don’t effect his winning.Kieren rode for him in Dubai even when in the shadows.Apparently Saeed is a personal friend of Kieren; maybe a friend of Frankie too unless they went to different parties!

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    A further two winners with cracking rides at Brighton yesterday.

    Where’s the OP gone ?? :wink:

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    Things are indeed going from bad to worse for "poor Kieren". Yesterday the Guineas,today the Musidora.Tomorrow ?

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    And The Dante today.

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    Shame that didnt go to script.

    York is a pig of a course these days. They always seem to run around on the spot between the 2f and 1f mark. Wouldnt write him off running a good race at Epsom if allowed to take his chance.

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    You have to admire fallon’s resilience,many others would have just thrown in the towel when things weren’t looking so good.
    There is no better jockey for the big occasion and if his problems over the last 10 years hadn’t deprived him of alot of race riding when he was at the peak of his powers,he would certainly be mentioned in the frame for the greatest of all time in my opinion.

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    A further two winners with cracking rides at Brighton yesterday.

    Where’s the OP gone ?? :wink:

    Been working away mate.
    OP sentiments still in place though.
    Seems to have lost the confidence within the bin Suroor yard.
    You noticed how many winners he is riding at the moment ?

    Even when riding in Turkey a few weeks back he was overlooked for 2 Group race winners for Godolphin and bin Suroor – and they were both ridden by Barzalona of all people.

    #491676
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    He’s not getting any rides for bin suroor now hardly, overlooked tomorrow at brighton in preference to dane o neill!it’s such a shame to see how his star has fallen, he can’t buy a decent ride now it seems.any horse he gets the leg up on now is usually a 25/1 no hoper.i wonder what he will do from here, surely he must be losing patience and getting frustrated with the whole thing.
    i for one would still have total confidence in putting him on a horse in a big race, when you see some of the jockeys that are getting rides ahead of him, its a joke.

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    Agree.

    19 days and 24 rides since his last winner

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