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August 12, 2006 at 15:46 #73421
In the meantime, given the nature of the allegations made,
Indeed Cormack, it is the nature of the charges. But all the other countries are aware of these charges. Clive was suggesting the HRA were the only ones to know the evidence and it is on the evidence that he is banned. This is not the case. The HRA and America are banning him on the same criteria that Ireland, France etc feel happy to let him continue.
(Edited by Aidan at 4:46 pm on Aug. 12, 2006)
August 12, 2006 at 16:01 #73422Seabird he is not an easy target as he is in a similar position to Fallon Lynch and Williams ie charged with conspiring to defraud betfair customers. I know the HRA said there was a difference as he is an employer but integrity is integrity and he should be banned if the others are
August 12, 2006 at 16:34 #73423I see what you mean Aidan, sorry.
August 12, 2006 at 17:24 #73424BC, I thought you were making a derogatory reference to Mr. Berry’s training abilities!!;)
Colin
August 12, 2006 at 21:15 #73425Does a jockey have a legitimate defence if he says he was merely following riding instructions?<br>Perhaps a few more trainers should be scrutinized.
September 12, 2006 at 16:22 #3002I’m appalled to say that the following is a true story.
A mate of mine has been interviewed at his house this week by a member of the Metropolitan Police who travelled up to the Midlands specifically for that reason.
His crime? He had a pony on Betfair on a Fallon-ridden horse at Warwick over two years’ ago. The nag in question was a 13-2 poke, beaten into second place by an 11-10 fav. Blimey, that is suspicious. Unfortunately, Kieren slightly overdid the ‘pulling’ tactics, being beaten seven lengths. From that dodgy, fly-blown Stoute stable, too, guv.
Apparently Mr Plod was straight from the cast of Eastenders and wasn’t troubled with any particular knowledge of racing or betting.
Reassuring to know that the Met is using up vast resources on this critical inquiry rather that wasting time on global terrorism, gang wars, juvenile crime, anti-social behaviour etc etc.
At least our 5p e/w Flags will be safe.
Mike<br>
September 12, 2006 at 17:26 #76877I don’t understand why the Met is interviewing your mate when he backed the horse in question and lost his money:(  I thought that Fallon was meant to be guilty of stopping horses for the benefit of certain punters…not to their detriment! ÂÂÂ
September 12, 2006 at 17:58 #76878Feel free to send the police to me to ask me what I thought of the ride he gave Russian Rhythm in the Lockinge – one of the races mentioned as suspicious – after I backed her on Betfair.
September 12, 2006 at 20:41 #76879<br>Interesting story, but it might be a tad more believeable if it was actually the Met who were involved in the Fallon case.
But they aren’t – it’s the City of London plods, an entirely separate and independent force.
AP
September 12, 2006 at 21:13 #76880Not only that, its the SFS who dont wear big helmets and carry truncheons
September 13, 2006 at 06:19 #76881Apracing
You seem to throw credence on this because I don’t know the difference between the Met and the City of London Police (which I don’t)?
This happened. Friday afternoon last week. The horse in question was Levitator.
For heaven’s sake, I am not some serial fantasist – I just thought you may be interested in knowing where your tax dollar is going in these troubled times.
Mike
September 13, 2006 at 07:14 #76882I like SwallowCottage don’t understand why they would be interviewing someone who’s put 25 quid on a loser:o
September 13, 2006 at 09:25 #76883My friend said he was asked why he had backed the Fallon horse and ‘was he happy’ with the ride that it had been given?
He rightly responded that he couldn’t remember the ride it had been given!
The officer then took a statement to that effect, before asking him general opinions about Fallon’s performance. They also discussed the Ballinger Ridge case, again in seemingly general terms. I don’t see anything there that is vaguely approaching ‘evidence’ of malpractice and am in the dark as much as anyone as to what this was supposed to achieve. I cannot throw any light onto why he was questioned about a backed loser rather than a layed winner.
As I say, the officer in question seemed to have little knowledge of racing.
Those of you who seem to think this is a wind-up need only send me their private email address and I will forward you the name of the officer, his work number and his mobile number. You will be able to check this out yourselves.
Mike
September 13, 2006 at 09:40 #76884Mike is one of Dudley’s most honest citizens, so this is quite likely to be true
September 13, 2006 at 09:59 #76885Still as funny as ever Fen-boy.
Talk about damned with faint praise.
Mike
September 13, 2006 at 10:51 #76886This is consistent with statements made by Charlie Brooks about a previous investigation.These guys are clueless.The fact that Russian Rhytym is mentioned proves that.
September 13, 2006 at 11:54 #76887Yes Luke
I expect you have read the "40000 pages of evidence" and come to your own conclusions havent you?
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