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September 19, 2010 at 22:37 #318325
Hi Joncol
I agree with a lot of what you say mate.
I don’t understand though why you think that the media were getting on his case.
I actually believe that they were extremely kind to him earlier on this season regarding his performances. Certainly no other high profile sportsman would have been treated so benignly, in my opinion.
We all make mistakes , and Kieren , imo, was making many of them
Just look at the vilification that pours out in some media outlets regarding top footballers etcSeptember 20, 2010 at 07:49 #318340Fallon is 45
He has suffered a serious injury and has had a lengthy spell with his feet up
I for one would have been amazed if he’d returned with the same fitness, vigour, strength, resolve and hunger he had in days of yore
Piggott – he of fitness, hunger and resolve
sans pareil
– retired at 50 with his powers clearly on the wane; and Royal Academy apart, his ill-conceived brief return at 55 after a similar spell with his feet up was an embarrassment, relatively speaking.
Enjoy Fallon (the jockey if not the man) while you still can
Swansongs are sweet, but so sad
September 20, 2010 at 11:48 #318386AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Coggy I would agree with you on the face of it that other sports people,especially footballers, get way more abuse,criticism from the media. But I think the media should learn to be more reserved when passing negative comments on jockeys, why? Well because of the risks these guys take. I used to look on jockeys without the risk factor and passed judgement far too easily. We have to remember they are in control of a horse here and not a football and as such literally risk their lives each time they ride in race.
When I say the media were getting to him I mean they were constantly comparing him to previous years without let him settle back in, they like me expected instant results and when they didn’t come started to slightly write him off, but in fairness I think they were slightly like me in that perhaps they were just frustrated not to have the brilliant Fallon back again as its such a thrill to watch him when hes in top form..
I just love watching him in top form, watching racing on Saturday for me would of been slightly boring without him
September 20, 2010 at 12:30 #318399Point taken and agreed Joncol
All the bestSeptember 22, 2010 at 14:28 #318722Someone mentioned Lester. They got rid of him too.Victimless crime it was. Would they put the greatest footballer in the world in prison at the hight of his career for tax evasion? I dont think so.Maradona was forgiven everything by the football world. But Lester kept the sport in the front page. Kieran did the same thing.What do the Racing Authorities do to keep people supporting racing? The only people who can make money out of the racing itself is the Bookmakers. If the punter carries out a coup there is an immediate investigation.If a jockey becomes as millionaire he will be sent to prison for not paying his taxes or warned off for drug addiction.It doesn’t happen to other sport’s stars.Did we warn off Rio Ferdenand? Not the greatest cricket player.(I believe his name was Sir Ian Botham). Nobodies may be warned off in football but not our internationals. Owners,trainers,bookmakers are not followed by the public the way jockeys are,(so we impose small discretionary fines on them for major violations)but they,the jockeys are the ones that we persecute and prosecute.What a crazy sport and we all buy into it!
September 22, 2010 at 14:36 #318723Someone mentioned Lester. They got rid of him too.Victimless crime it was. Would they put the greatest footballer in the world in prison at the hight of his career for tax evasion? I dont think so.Maradona was forgiven everything by the football world. But Lester kept the sport in the front page. Kieran did the same thing.What do the Racing Authorities do to keep people supporting racing? The only people who can make money out of the racing itself is the Bookmakers. If the punter carries out a coup there is an immediate investigation.If a jockey becomes as millionaire he will be sent to prison for not paying his taxes or warned off for drug addiction.It doesn’t happen to other sport’s stars.Did we warn off Rio Ferdenand? Not the greatest cricket player.(I believe his name was Sir Ian Botham). Nobodies may be warned off in football but not our internationals. Owners,trainers,bookmakers are not followed by the public the way jockeys are,(so we impose small discretionary fines on them for major violations)but they,the jockeys are the ones that we persecute and prosecute.What a crazy sport and we all buy into it!
What a moronic diatribe that is.
September 22, 2010 at 14:42 #318727So tax evasion is ok if you can a ride horse?
I thought the line about Irish expatriate gentlemen spending the entirety of their exile crying into their beer was a myth, listening to OD I’m not sure any more…?
Cue-nass, Andy. I’ve a pian in my bolg listening to you.
September 22, 2010 at 17:50 #318755Nice change of subject you guys that way we don’t have to discuss the issues.Compare Rio and Ian,or Maradona to Lester and Kieren ,they also were into drug related crimes. But no warning off. That was my point. Most people make up a shortfall in taxes.No other sport destroys its heroes.But if is a diatribe so be it.We don’t want to talk wbout our(society) behavior just those of the jockeys.Dont see no politicians going to jail for tax problems. That way we can feel good .Right?
September 23, 2010 at 22:42 #319005I guess the expats should be more gratefull for the kindnesses of the great colonial tit mother.I however am not an expat.Unless you mean an expaddy.That I am.
September 24, 2010 at 08:42 #319039AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Nice change of subject you guys that way we don’t have to discuss the issues.Compare Rio and Ian,or Maradona to Lester and Kieren ,they also were into drug related crimes. But no warning off. That was my point.
Your point chooses partial evidence. Athletes who have a sniff of a drug in them are given career bans. Same with cyclists – they get years at least. Racing is towards the lower end of the drugs spectrum as far as severity of sentencing is concerned, so your point is illogical and prejudiced.
September 24, 2010 at 09:40 #319044Footballers are not in control of half a ton of horseflesh moving at 30+ miles per hour.
Jockeys owe a duty of care to their fellow professionals, and also to the horses themselves.
If a jockey takes drugs then they know what the rules are and what the consequences are likely to beSeptember 24, 2010 at 10:25 #319056AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
I find it a bit sad that yesterday in his interview on TV, Fallon is "hoping" Cumani can find a good one for next season. More evidence if any more were needed of the long term damage the BHA’s unspeakable actions against the man have caused.
I happen to admire Fallon for the way he is riding and making the best of this opportunity the court verdict afforded him but you have to be pulling our leg?
Assualt/s, the Top Cees contraversy, charged with conspiracy, accusation of owing over 300K to a betting sydacate, alleged cocaine abuse etc. ina somewhat checkered career.
The BHA couldn’t possibly ignore such allegations whether it’s Keiren or a 7lb claimer it would destroy racing if they did and the public outcry for their heads would ensure they would all be looking for new jobs.
In a lot of peoples opinionion KF should be dubbed up in a 4 by 2,eating Quaker Oats for breakfast and never riding a racehorse again. I doubt if he’ll be winning BBC personailty of the year.
At the end of the day whether you think Fallon was guilty or inncocent doesn’t matter as he served his time in the wilderness, but to blame the BHA for doing their job? That’s nonsense IMO
September 24, 2010 at 10:56 #319059Your input to the forum has improved a lot over the years, imo, Fist. You’ve gone right back to square one with the misinformed garbage you’ve just posted above.
The Thai "justice" system clearly has you confused. And all from the bloke who was defending Graham Bradley a few weeks ago.
Go back to your Tom Yam ffs.
September 24, 2010 at 16:38 #319104The racing authorities should be taking care of their own.Not hunting them down like they were witches or something. Theraphutic centers need to be established, or financed, where they could find treatment for indulgence in over eating, over drinking or recreational drug consumption.No other sport demands so much and gives back so little as racing does to the average /ordinary jockey.
They diet ,work from early morning till late night. No team buses for them, no hotels paid for by the management. Nothing but diet and heart ache for the many and broken limbs for the others. The winners must pay all expences bed board and beyond just like the losers!The nobody jockeys that need help spend their life away from their family just like McCoy does or Ruby Walsh.But there is no sympathy for them.25$ a mile for a 3 mile chase with fences and other horses threatening their lives.You would think they were out on parole the way they are monitored.Watching who they talk to etc etc etc.I could go on on another diatribe but I won’t, ranting does no good.September 24, 2010 at 17:09 #319107Hey Andy, the Casela Park boys told the BHA the other day…
"We don’t have enough money to bring barristers over to help us, We’re just lambs to the slaughter."
Are you up for a bit of impromptu QC work? Defending impoverished Irish farmers is your speciality, right?
September 24, 2010 at 17:55 #319113dear CR. I try so hard to dislike you but I cannot.You are so mnuch fun.Just for the record I don’t believe McCoy is an Irish farmer.Neither are McGuire, Fallon, Murtagh, Gannon and the many other fellow travellors I could mention.Fellow travellors is not intended as a pun.Some day check out the attendance at the Apprentice school at the Curragh. Incidentally there are a lot more poor farmers in Ireland than rich ones unlike across the water. A result of history. But i don’t suppose that makes it any easier to comprehend.
September 24, 2010 at 18:02 #319115Only pulling your leg, Andy
Our recent and ongoing impoverishment has nothing to do with the Brits, unless Bertie and Biffo come from "across the water" as well.
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