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I’d be even more confident than you trackside that he’ll eventually retire. :biggrin:
whatever the facts of the case and in response to those who seem to be taking an almost paranoid view of those on here who think this case may have substance, i would be bloody twitchy if I was him if this was the HRA statement i had to read ;
" We know only the wording of the charge and certain other limited details either given to us by the representatives of Kieren Fallon or which we have come by in the normal course of our Regulatory duties (e.g. we are aware that Miles Rogers, who is one charged with the jockeys, was warned off on 2nd April 2004). It is not for us to seek to assess the strength of the case for the prosecution or the defence, but we know that a responsible public authority, the CPS, under the guidance of the DPP has taken the view that the evidence collected raises at least a prima facie case against these jockeys."
As bluechariot says horses are not machines. How do we know the horse didn’t have an off day? Eg was it fixed so Bernandini didn’t win the race as you could argue his jockey hit the front too soon? Or was it just the horse didn’t quite run to form. Are 80% of Nayyir’s (sorry me old mucker) races fixed because he finds trouble in running in them? Would love to see the proof beyond all reasonable doubt.
No-one can say for sure whether Fallon has acted with criminal intent and this, for me, will see him eventually acquitted of any and all changes made against him.
Whether this is right or not, it’s what I think will happen.
I would suggest that, without being any admission of guilt, his latest minor outburst is more an act of desperation, an attempt to get everything resolved as soon as possible. His ineligibility to ride in the UK can’t, surely, effect Ballydoyle all that much (it’s not like they can’t find a half decent jockey to put on their animals) and if the worst were to happen, and he were to lose his cushy job in Ireland, he’s not exactly going to be short of offers, is he?
Presumably all the Fallon defenders (who must have read the 40000 pages of evidence i presume) have equally certain opinions on the other accused jockeys guilt then?
Presumably all the Fallon defenders (who must have read the 40000 pages of evidence i presume) have equally certain opinions on the other accused jockeys guilt then?
Presumably we should bang up every individual who is accused of anything based on the number of pages of evidence there are…dont bother with the court case. 1,000-10,000 gets you a 5 years……10,001- 20,000 gets you 10 years and 20,000 plus gets you life….thats it all sorted then!
KFallon did not ride out his claim as an apprentice. No-one recognised his talent then, and he almost stopped riding. <br>Unfortunately, apprentices are vulnerable as there are unscrupulous people prepared to prey on their dreams of becoming a successful jockey.
Clivex,
You really are a bore. Please try to put across at least some type of reasonable argument when constantly spouting such anti-fallon nonsense.
How can i put across an argument for this case when I have no idea what the evidence is FFS?
The only arguments im hearing is from those that dont wish to see their precious little hero doing porridge
Thought Clare Balding’s comment before the Cup here on Tuesday was interesting- she said that APOB had told KF to "Train the horse yourself"<br>Not a great result in this case, but what price KF training for Coolmore if the court case goes the wrong way? And would you send him a horse?
Quote: from clivex on 9:43 am on Nov. 8, 2006[br]Presumably all the Fallon defenders (who must have read the 40000 pages of evidence i presume) have equally certain opinions on the other accused jockeys guilt then?<br>
<br>Clive,
To my knowledge on the multiple posts from many members on this matter is that some forumites have expressed their view that he is innocent until proven guilty. However your view is most definitely that KF is guilty. Your comment above is quite ridiculous, because you seem to be the only one to have read the pages of evidence as you seem to have already made your mind up on the matter. Though, at this stage, its the usual tripe I expect from you.
JohnJ.
Presumably all the Fallon defenders (who must have read the 40000 pages of evidence i presume) have equally certain opinions on the other accused jockeys guilt then?
And you must be pretty thick to have have interpreted that post as me concluding that Fallon is guilty.
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However your view is most definitely that KF is guilty
Assume what you want. You usually do but as you know, i ahve never at any stage said that. How could I ffs?
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