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I don’t know who this English Defence League are…but they don’t speak for me..and if you want a glimpse of the future it’s HERE[/color:3f736qjf] we’re getting organised…
Personally, I feel alienated from anyone who is devoutly religious.
I feel the exact same .. we have a brethern church at the bottom of our street and they come from far and wide every day to do their thing. I don’t object to what they do but they aren’t a part of our community and they are only tolerated because they leave the rest of us alone.
People who are devoutly religious tend to be poorly educated and superstitious, whatever particular brand they follow. I would hate to have religious folk running the council where I live as I know that they have an inferior (illogical) thought process compared with the rest of us. If you look around the world the most oppressive and backward countries are run by religious nutters, Iran was progressive until the revolution and now look at it.
I would seriously object to any religious gathering spot being built near where I live, especially a mosque. I’m not interested in what they do or what they believe and I can’t be bothered with all of their shoite.
Personally, I feel alienated from anyone who is devoutly religious.
I feel the exact same .. we have a brethern church at the bottom of our street and they come from far and wide every day to do their thing. I don’t object to what they do but they aren’t a part of our community and they are only tolerated because they leave the rest of us alone.
People who are devoutly religious tend to be poorly educated and superstitious, whatever particular brand they follow. I would hate to have religious folk running the council where I live as I know that they have an inferior (illogical) thought process compared with the rest of us. If you look around the world the most oppressive and backward countries are run by religious nutters, Iran was progressive until the revolution and now look at it.
I would seriously object to any religious gathering spot being built near where I live, especially a mosque. I’m not interested in what they do or what they believe and I can’t be bothered with all of their shoite.
Dave, I am what you would call devoutly religious (the reason I don’t too many sunday Point to points). I have absolutely no superstitions, like touching wood, fingers crossed and getting me knickers into a twist over black cats (except when they wander unwittingly into our garden where out black and white called Shalom lies in wait for a punch up) and magpies all of which I think are complete nonsense. I am also well educated almost to degree level and am widely read from Shakespeare, to Dickens, to Wordsworth, to C S Lewis, Henry Brewis, Burns, Sir Walter Scott, Will Ogilvie and Banjo Patterson.
I do object to you declaiming all religious folk as thick and ignorant and a "load of Shoite". It may be to you, but to me and many well educated people (to degree level and beyond – even Oxfords Dons like Professor John Lennox – as fine a Christian as you will ever meet) it is life enhancing. Each to his own opinion mate.
Here, Here, bbobbell!!!!
I bet if your new church was under threat form a bunch of louts you would run amock and throw every thing you could find at the Police that were trying to defend your religion!!
As it happens, I bet you wouldn’t. You sound like a nice bloke. (And clever!)
I am what you would call devoutly religious. I have absolutely no superstitions
.. how can you be religious and not superstitious, religion is superstition is it not?
I am what you would call devoutly religious. I have absolutely no superstitions
.. how can you be religious and not superstitious, religion is superstition is it not?
Christianity, is not, in my view, remotely superstitious, when it is by faith which is how I practice. However, some religious practices may, by some, be seen to be superstitious, if they were so minded.
Imv, both religion and science simply offer a different way of interpreting the world. It doesn’t really matter whether either are right or wrong – but rather whether the interpretation is useful.
I’ve met as many thoroughly decent Christians, Muslims, etc as I have Humanists, I’ve also met an equal amount of each that were complete wankers.
Therefore, it’s what people do in the world that matters not how they choose to interpret it (to paraphrase Marx’s)
Aren’t ‘faith’ and ‘superstition’ more or less the same thing, bobbell?
Not at all, mate. Faith believes that something will definitely happen like Sea The Stars winning the Arc or the Scotland rugby team one day winning the Grand Slam again. However, misguided that might seem to some.
Superstition, on the other hand carries out a ritual because something good happened once when, for instance, a particlar item of clothing was worn (lucky socks, hat, colour of shirt, underpants.
Frankly I’d rather have faith in God than in a pair of lucky socks or a lucky 9 iron.
Religion is as much a way of life as a superstition. Thats all very well until that way of life throws itself into the wider political arena and then attempts to impose its "standards" on the rest of us.
Islam is the extreme example of this. A religion which is (in most forms) aggresively intolernat of other beliefs or standards. Buddism say would be at the opposite end of the scale (i might be wrong)
The resentment comes when "believers" want to subject their will on others whether it be stoning adulterers, oppoistion to sex education, opposition (its always opposition isnt it?) to assisted death and even the old crap sunday trading laws
no unelected bishop, iman, preacher, vicar, rabbi or whatever has any right at all to dicate to me what my life standards should be in any way whatsoever. That doesnt just apply to atheists and agnostics, but also those that do not subscribe to organised religion and yet still believe
My thoughts exactly Clive, I don’t want some half-wit telling me how to live my life, based on a load of fairy-tales. Just because they are deluded doesn’t mean that we should be roped in with it.
Any country that is not secular tends to be a mess at some level. Christians generally seemed to have learned this over the years but Muslim countries are racist, corrupt shite-holes. It’s strange that the people who live in countries like that don’t view it in the same way and at the same time take every opportunity to leave at the earliest opportunity.
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