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April 15, 2010 at 14:06 #290423
To be honest, I think most of think that. We’re just looking for something to oppose it with on the basis "If St Nicholas Abbey is a certainty, why ain’t it odds on?"
April 15, 2010 at 14:34 #290428Does our boy Frankie get his wrists slapped for not keeping a straight line?Imagine Fallon was riding the horse the whole stewards room would be down on him like a ton of bricks.
April 15, 2010 at 22:05 #290522Elusive Pimpernel
Not just me that he excites. Thanks for the comments above and especially re supplements.
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news … 11008.html
No I didn’t write it!
He is a big horse so it will be interesting to see how much muscle he’s put on.
Put on loads of muscle not puny like SNA.
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,365457,00.html
Can’t see SNA beating this one ever again. I also have a substantial financial interest in saying that!
April 15, 2010 at 22:44 #290530Dunlop once again said he doesn’t see Elusive Pimpernel as a Derby horse. He won’t run. I can see him going 2000 Guineas and then straight onto the Eclipse. Maybe then onto the Juddmonte and the Irish Champion.
I’m looking for quotes from Dunlop but I can’t find any. Certainly I heard an interview from him last year saying that he doesn’t think the horse will get further than a mile. All I can find is a quote from the Racing Post analysis;
‘although his trainer doesn´t see him as a Derby horse at all.’
April 15, 2010 at 22:52 #290532Looking further into the season, Dunlop added: “He will get a mile and a quarter at most and is not a Derby horse.
“He is in the French Derby and there are plenty of options, but we will see what happens in the Guineas first.”
Edit – Fair point I’ve just read. EP wasn’t supplemented at the last stage. Only thing left now is the £75,000 stage on May 31st. Forget him for the Derby, he won’t be entered and he won’t run.
April 17, 2010 at 21:54 #290896Zarkava has written on the Guineas thread that the Guardian Classic Trial has been rubbish for years. Does it make a difference, concerning Workforce, that Stoute ran both Shergar and Shahrastani in it?
April 17, 2010 at 23:00 #290901That was 25+ years ago, Gerald.
April 18, 2010 at 09:51 #290937AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
It was suggested on one of these threads that Mikhail Glinka might be a good bet for the Derby. I couldn’t disagree more. I wouldn’t even back him today in the trial. Not the profile of a Derby winner for mine.
April 18, 2010 at 15:01 #290985Passion For Gold not gone for the Derby….
Chabal*
Kingsfort
Passion For Gold2 Group 1 winning Juveniles and 1 Group 1 runner up now won’t make any of the classic’s?
*Havent head anything about Chabal so he must be injured
The mind boggles at times….leave the horses in England for goodness sake. Their flesh and bone not machinery to be shipped around the globe
April 18, 2010 at 15:16 #290988No outstanding candidate coming from the Ballysax today.
April 18, 2010 at 15:17 #290989Messy race….
Agreed no Derby Winner’s their
April 18, 2010 at 15:19 #290990AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Yes and as predicted the Glinka runs a stinker.
Sorry I simply couldn’t resist that cheap pun. Seriously though that lot are pretty average on the Derby scale of thinking. Perhaps one of them is a chance in Italy or Germany.
April 18, 2010 at 15:21 #290991Maybe Glinka could improve maybe 10lb from that run and he was bumped a few times but really he should be winning that if he deserves a place in the Derby
2nd String ran a cracker imo
April 18, 2010 at 15:28 #290996Slow pace, stable taking their time to come to hand, 2nd & 3rd favs for the Derby won’t be running, etc. Personally I think Mikhail Glinka is a great each-way bet.
April 18, 2010 at 15:30 #290998He flicked his ears and pulled very hard.
Looks a tough tough ride….if you saw him after the line his head was nearly to one side.
Beautiful looking horse…Black and very powerful.
April 18, 2010 at 23:04 #291096Chiswickian, congratulations on that fine prediction. Who’d have thought it, a short-priced O’Brien favourite beaten in April…
I backed Famous Warrior in the race, and although it was a scrappy contest run at a steady pace, I was actually impressed with Mikhail. He showed a nice turn of foot, clearly wasn’t appreciating the pace (possibly the ground too) and I think it’s folly to ignore the chosen runner to go down the proven O’Brien route of Ballysax-Derrinstown.
Let’s also not forget he was Murtagh’s chosen mount in the Royal Lodge, ahead of the winner Joshua Tree. 50s with totesport is a bit silly really, I don’t think I’d bother at 33s.
April 19, 2010 at 14:47 #291178AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Hahahaha. Funny you should mention the Royal Lodge winner. He was also beaten by Puncher Clynch. Yes I know he got into a spot of bother that day. I wont be on the edge of my seat awaiting the return of Joshua Tree though.
As for Joshua Tree in the Derby – let’s just say "I still haven’t found what I’m looking for".
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