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  • #298630
    stilvi
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    Kieran, if you could ride any horse in the derby who would it be?

    "Midas Touch"

    Sows how much Fallon knows :lol:

    Maybe he’s not as daft as you think, thm?
    Even after Cape Blanco had won the Dante, they were saying MT was at least his equal, also reported to have improved appreciably since then. It may also be significant that SNA’s ‘injury’ never surfaced until after he was turned over in a gallop with MT, either.
    No surprise at all should Midas Touch finish in front of Jan Vermeer, at least.

    Workforce, Bullet Train and now Midas Touch to beat Jan Vermeer. Anything else?

    Am I correct in assuming you missed the big prices on the favourite?

    #298634
    Anonymous
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    Stilvi
    Don’t bet ante-post, don’t rate Jan Vermeer, and unlikely to have a bet in the race at all.
    Am I correct in assuming that you never post anything constructive?

    #298637
    Fryern
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    If you could find a horse with blood links to this lot it should have a great chance:-

    Sadlers Wells, Dancing Brave, Lyphard, Mill Reef, Native Dancer, Northern Dancer, Never Say Die, Hyperion, Busted

    Or:-

    Mill Reef, Darshaan, Shirley Heights, Galilieo, Urban Sea, Sir ivor, Native Dancer, Sadlers Wells, Lyphard, Northern Dancer

    Which one would you choose?

    :D :D

    #298638
    Avatar photowallace-no7
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    Why am i warming to Midas Touch?

    #298642
    Avatar photoGerald
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    Or Midast Ouch, as I now think of him, thanks to Mr Wilson.

    #298648
    Fryern
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    If you could find a horse with blood links to this lot it should have a great chance:-

    Sadlers Wells, Dancing Brave, Lyphard, Mill Reef, Native Dancer, Northern Dancer, Never Say Die, Hyperion, Busted

    Stan James went 40-1 tonight, on the one above – not for long had them!!! Lay some off tomorrow will be a lot shorter.

    Or:-

    Mill Reef, Darshaan, Shirley Heights, Galilieo, Urban Sea, Sir ivor, Native Dancer, Sadlers Wells, Lyphard, Northern Dancer

    So whose this?

    :D :D

    #298657
    Avatar photoGerald
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    Well, this last one is too easy. Galileo gives it away.

    #298668
    Fryern
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    Well Gerald if you go on breeding its between Midas and Ted who???

    Interesting to see the outcome.

    :D :D

    #298674
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    Quick look at the Betfair Forum and its going wild that Jan Vermeer has had his foot in a icebucket the whole day and that is why he is drifting.

    #298687
    darren83
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    Since last August this was the day i was looking forward to the most sadly SNA is out.My tip is Jan Vermeer

    #298688
    Grimes
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    Talking about fantatsic breeding, how about Dalghar, a full brother to Daylami and Dalkhani, running tomorrow in France, but entered also in the Queen Anne.

    It was recently available at 140/1 on Betfair for the QA. Its form has not been spectacular, but I don’t expect it’s been rushed.

    It appears to be quoted at odds on in Betfair, though as second favourite!

    #298689
    Avatar photoOleBahram
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    Talking about fantatsic breeding, how about Dalghar, a full brother to Daylami and Dalkhani, running tomorrow in France

    Half-brother actually (and Daylami and Dalakhani weren’t full brothers either). Also, wrong forum.

    THE DERBY:
    So often, the derby winner is a horse who doesn’t just have the ability (clearly, several of these colts do), but is peaking at the right time. To me, 7 horses seem to have the potential: Al Zir, Azmeel, Bullet T, Johannes V, Midas T, Rewilding & Workforce.

    I don’t feel that either of the Juddmonte horses is peaking well (I recall both trainers sounding lukewarm about running them after their respective trials). I also don’t think that JV is peaking; he was an uncertain runner for a long time, and various mild injuries/setbacks have been mentioned suggesting that his prep has not been particularly smooth. Of course, an outstanding colt will overcome a jagged prep and triumph anyway, but it seems unlikely that JV is one of those. I haven’t really gotten a read on Al Zir.

    To me, Midas T, Rewilding and Azmeel all seem like they might be hitting Epsom tomorrow at the right time.

    #298700
    Fryern
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    The worst thing about this years Derby will be Claire Balding shouting down her microphone at the end of it. Wouldn’t mind but it is hardly an attractive voice.

    Please someone tell her she doesn’t need to shout into a microphone.

    The value bet has to be Ted Spread. Very well bred gets the distance and lets hope they put on plenty of water. Thunderstorm would be good around 2.00pm!

    40-1 ratio bet 10:1 is what i’ve done.

    :D :D

    #298703
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    Ted Spread. Very well bred

    Very well bred if you want to win the Champion Hurdle. :wink:

    Value Is Everything
    #298704
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Can’t understand why some people are saying this is an open Derby. In my opinion Jan Vermeer, Workforce and Rewilding have a 64% chance between them (not 51.8% as you can get backing all three). Buzzword and Coordinated Cut look the value outsiders, could run in to a place.

    Value Is Everything
    #298712
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    1. Rewilding
    2. Al Zir
    3. Azmeel

    Would love Bullet Train to win, but have a feeling Mr Cecil will get unlucky again.

    #298715
    Bulwark
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    I cannot work out the ground as yet but reckon my bets will be…

    Gd-Fm (today again)

    Azmeel 12-1 and Al Zir 18-1

    Good Ground

    Co-ordinated Cut 25-1 and Al Zir at 18-1

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