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June 1, 2010 at 21:54 #298107
Big Bucks
I initially posted (as a joke) Ted Who???
I then took a look….liked what I saw
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Ra … 22,00.html
Got to hand it to the horse he don’t give up…
This is some late news:-
Trainer Mark Tompkins is hoping there will be plenty of pace on for his Chester Vase winner Ted Spread in the Investec Derby.
"He’s won his trial so you’ve got to go there. He’s always shown me he’s a nice horse,".
"He’s been fine and has sharpened up since Chester. Darryll (Holland) gave him a great ride and it taught him a lot. He’s quite a big horse and is very relaxed. It did him a bit of good.
"I hope there will be some pace. Maybe one of Aidan’s will lead and Bullet Train might go on as well, but the quicker they go the better it will suit him. He’ll definitely stay.
"We need more rain. I hope Mr (Andrew) Cooper, the clerk of the course, will put plenty of water on and I’m sure it will be brilliant ground for everybody."
Michael Hills, who will replace the injured Holland on Saturday, admitted being pleasantly surprised when he sat on Ted Spread for the first time.
"I rode him work on Friday. Basically, it was a routine piece of work for him to get a feel of me and me to get a feel of him," he said.
"I was actually surprised how much speed he had. I had spoken to Darryll and he said to me that he really wakes up on the track and he will show quite a bit of speed, which is really handy for the first part of the race to get the position you ideally want.
Won’t be lapped – might just win!
June 1, 2010 at 21:57 #298108Fella, I’ll be stunned and need to sit down if he’s anywhere near the first 5. gl
June 1, 2010 at 22:10 #298115Fry – I love that – "won’t be lapped!" – For obvious reasons…
I really do…big Lol!
Have looked at the stars and – you might be right – we are in a funny phase…full of surprises!
Best of
June 1, 2010 at 23:06 #298126History has shown us that Ballydoyle hypes up their horses – Galileo, Hawk Wing, High Chaparral, Yeats, Gypsy King, Horatio Nelson, Rip Van Winkle. Every single one has been hyped up. The only horse I can remember getting close to winning the Derby for them without being hyped up is Dylan Thomas. Without doubt they had no clue what they had IMO.
June 1, 2010 at 23:13 #298127Fella, I’ll be stunned and need to sit down if he’s anywhere near the first 5. gl
Why’s that Big Buck’s?
June 1, 2010 at 23:24 #298128Just imo he needs to find a stone to place. So working around that. His trainer has all but said he’ll be amazed if he places unless it rains and turns up soft, which it won’t, hinting that only because he scraped home in a trial is he running.
June 1, 2010 at 23:43 #298129I’m not seeing it BB. This horse has been running over a mile or less exclusively, so he hasn’t run in a recognised Derby Trial.
Last run was a very good staying-on fourth in the French Guineas, which looked like a strong renewal. Totally unexposed over twelve furlongs and pedigree/jockey bookings suggest Buzzword could stay it (related to Lush Lashes, Saumarez).
If he was a Ballydoyle horse, he’d be among the market leaders. My only worry is that Buzzword was so aggressively campaigned at two, running eight races at most of the big gigs. I’m inclined to punt a little each-way nonetheless – and recognise that Jan Vermeer is the most likely winner.
June 1, 2010 at 23:45 #298130AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
his trainer not noted for throwing a handful of darts at the board and hoping one sticks
Ironic isn’t it, that the former maestro of Ballydoyle Vincent O Brien said something like ‘If you think you’ve got four derby possibles you’ve got none at all’, but the current master of the universe seems to think different? Times change I suppose.
Indicating that if a stable had 4 horses of seemingly equal merit, it was highly unlikely any of them would be outstanding enough to win a Derby.
Certainly don’t recall him having more than a couple of runners each year, and as Lester rode most of his winners, it seems MVOB invariably knew the best of them.June 2, 2010 at 00:21 #298132Fella, I’ll be stunned and need to sit down if he’s anywhere near the first 5. gl
Why’s that Big Buck’s?
I’m talking about Ted Spread, the horse i was in conversation about with fryern, fella was meant to be to him, sorry for the confusion!! Buzzword is a pacemaker for rewilding tho!
June 2, 2010 at 00:32 #298133After being on Cape Blanco for what feels like a year, I now have to admit defeat. Frankie takes it on REWILDING.
June 2, 2010 at 00:33 #298134Pacemaker supplemented?
Also, if it was the pacemaker, it would have the best jockey on, wouldn’t it? Godolphin wouldn’t want to mess up the pacemaking like Ballydoyle always do.
June 2, 2010 at 00:36 #298135The stable jockey is on him – Ajtebi, responsible for setting up his senior colleague for the win, hence fallon riding al zir
June 2, 2010 at 01:15 #298136I’ve just greened up the race, as I was curious whether the surplus would appear in my account straightaway. It didn’t. Presumably, those who backed St Nicholas Abbey last Summer greened up the race over the Winter.
£18.50[/color:5nd7zvt1] Jan Vermeer
£71.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Workforce
£71.27[/color:5nd7zvt1] Bullet Train
£22.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Midas Touch
£30.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Rewilding
£73.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Azmeel
£6.92[/color:5nd7zvt1] Cape Blanco
£35.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Coordinated Cut
£34.94[/color:5nd7zvt1] Al Zir
£13.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Ted Spread
£65.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Hot Prospect
£35.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] Buzzword
£1,380.70[/color:5nd7zvt1] Bright Horizon
£385.00[/color:5nd7zvt1] At First SightGot an £8 loss in the place market though.
Made a hash of it, as my £2 on Bright Horizon consists of £1.01 @ 710, £0.30 @ 750, £0.53 @ 800 and £0.16 @ 810, so I could have saved £1.84 by placing it at 810 instead of 710.
June 2, 2010 at 01:16 #298137Gosh, BB. I didn’t think my post was worthy of a reply, and you’ve given a serious one!
June 2, 2010 at 01:30 #298138My £3.81 @ 32 on Cape Blanco seems to have put the bots into motion, so I ungreened by laying back £2 @ 19.
June 2, 2010 at 01:41 #298139Cape Blanco now into 9.
June 2, 2010 at 01:43 #298140Make that 8. I’ve laid a bit more back.
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