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  • #1635483
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/37/newcastle/2023-02-25/831469

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/national-hunt/vertem-eider-handicap-chase/winner

    Not far off twenty years since I had the winner of this, but I’ll keep trying.

    The standout for me at the entry stage, and at 16’s, is Dans Le Vent. A regular of mine over hurdles, I thought it interesting that his last run was over a completely inadequate two miles, where he was rushed off his feet/not put into it.

    Jumping wasn’t anything special but certainly better than his last attempt, and at double the distance here, no real surprise to see him show a wee bit of improvement all of a sudden.

    Know him fairly well, and I’d have next to no concerns over this trip. Shouldn’t have any ground concerns either.

    Definitely having a bet just now, but not going mad until I see the five day Decs, as there’s surely a fair few options for him.

    Given my record in this, one should be enough, but I’ll no doubt hover around Sam’s Adventure and Time To Get Up. Sam’s Adventure a previous winner, and not hammered for a return to form last time. Time To Get Up is a horse who I’ve got wrong a couple of times, after having (far too) high hopes for him, but I seen enough at Chepstow to retain a bit of enthusiasm.

    I’ll definitely consider them on the day, but the really interesting one for me is Mighty Thunder. Looked completely gone, but from what I seen at Musselburgh, he’s worth noting for the rest of the season, and off a very, very generous mark.

    Dans Le Vent 16’s
    Mighty Thunder 33’s EW

    FINAL DECS

    Dans Le Vent not going for me, but not too concerned, as just a token bet. He’s entered in The Midlands National too, so on my radar for that now, though I won’t be rushing to get him Antepost

    Happy to have another though, and I’ll be with No Cruise Yet, who’s fairly consistent, and looks a bit overpriced to me off a low weight. With the NR, and Mighty Thunder already bet, he might just have to be win only, but if he drifted, I’d reconsider.

    Mighty Thunder 33’s EW
    No Cruise Yet 18’s EW 5pls

    #1636536
    Silver Spoon
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    I’ve bet Sam’s Adventure at 20-1, and assuming that The Galloping Bear runs here, I will add him once he is confirmed.

    #1636604
    Avatar photoLemons68
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    I’m following you again here Spoon, and I’ll be betting The Galloping Bear if he is declared. He was ante-post loser for me for Aintree, so I’d be really happy to win that money back

    Bavington Bob will be my other bet

    #1636649
    waroftheroses
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    That’s a nice price you got Spoon on Sam’s Adventure. I’m going to join you, and I will be happy with around 12-1

    #1636680
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    I would be a little wary here as the going could have a bearing. I understand the watering system is broken and a friend who walked the course before last meeting said it was rough with a poor covering of grass. No rain forecast before Saturday so it may get quicker than the current Good To Soft.

    Assuming all is well….

    Bavington Bob very interesting for me here. Didn’t show up well in the autumn, but stable were struggling for staff at the time and just couldn’t get their horses fit. Looked much nearer fitness when second at Kelso last time and can progress from that.

    Down the bottom of the handicap, a progressive type with decent staying form is No Cruise Yet. Has won at Class 3 and this ‘Class 2’ is pretty much Class 3 in strength.

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    You can put a line through anything Kitty’s Light does from October to January; he is a proper spring horse who needs top of the ground and some sun on his back. Has been painfully unlucky not have have a few of these big handicaps in the bank already, so it’s just a matter of time before he finally lands one. The market has latched onto this and he’s not really at a price to back, so he’ll be in multiples for me.

    Sam’s Adventure would be my each way play; a previous winner who has tumbled down the weights. I’ll play the forecast with these two.

    #1636714
    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    Sam’s Adventure is a soft/heavy ground horse, iirc. Is it predicted soft there this weekend? If not, I can’t have that one. Eva’s Oskar should be able to get in the Grand National off 142 (is no 55 on the card at the moment) but will he need to lug 12st around Newcastle as his prep for that race? Even so, it’s good to see a traditional long-distance handicapper from a smaller yard in the entries for the Nash – there aren’t that many bold enough this year.

    Kitty’s Light is fav and is 13 lbs less than when third in the Whitbread in April off only a pound less than Hewick carried. But this season has been way off in four starts before a hint of a return to some sort of form when third to Annsam at Kempton.

    I like four at this stage with one I like a lot, as I shall explain below:

    No Cruise Yet, down on 10 stone at the bottom. Showed desire when beating Poppa Poutine and Nestor Park at Haydock on the soft in November (Sam’s Adventure 20l back, that one 10 lbs better off now). Second in a marathon at Bangor recently (concern being that was just two weeks ago) but is as big as 20/1 for the Englands. Interesting.

    Houston Texas. 13 lbs better off with French Paradoxe for 11 length 4th to that one at Newcastle on 31 Jan. Good in the Cumberland Handicap Chase (always a good Class 3) at Carlisle in October (that race always seems to work out well every year).

    Young Bull. Unexposed 9 yo, just 5 chases and 13 career runs. Doesn’t get beaten by far in any of those chases but remains a novice. The last two times he’s had a long break, Young Bull has been better second-time out. This race would be just the second since March, with the other being a third at Haydock after Christmas. I think 25s is too big.

    However, I’m drawn to Shanty Alley. Second in the Mandarin, there were excuses for going down in the Great Yorkshire (a better race than this) last time. He gets on well with Conor O’Farrell,. who I like in these sorts of stamina tests. I’m a bit baffled by the 25/1 price and wonder if that means I’ve missed something there!

    #1636880
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    Kitty’s Light for me.

    #1636898
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Count me in on the No Cruise Yet camp. Also have Bavington Bob and Amateur in EW singles and permed EW doubles with my 4 in the Coral at Kempton.

    Good luck
    Joe

    #1636961
    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    I’ve backed Mighty Thunder at Musselburgh and he ran a fairly decent race there. They dropped him 7 pounds for that so that is quite generous. Got to give him another chance.

    Mighty Thunder 28/1 EW

    #1636964
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Kitty’s light is well handicapped to win but very short for a horse that wins as often as there’s a eclipse , at the prices Bavington Bob has been crying out for a step up in trip , he,s been brought along quietly by by the shrewd Hamilton’s for this , headgear on , he,s a cracking e.w price , at bigger like Bobby I can see Mighty Thunder running well at a bit price , he,s been in the wilderness since he won the Scot Nat but it’s easy to forget how easy he won that , handicapper has relented and he showed a bit more last time

    Barrington Bob e.w

    Mighty Thunder e.w

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1637008
    Mike007
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    Get in!

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