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November 4, 2023 at 23:01 #1669389
Gingertipster it doesn’t matter where they break from ginger thats the amazing science of it. The fact is they were already factored into the race from that draw in the first place. They were also factored into the race at the weights (levels or not) They aren’t actually running they are not there. That’s the amazing thing otherwise how could I still identify the horses involved other than by the draw. ( in a way I don’t have to prove it and in another way you’ve proved it yourself by pointing out that they shuffle positions away and yet the horses i identify pre race get placed or win. Think about it gingertipster you’ve proved the science 🧫 yourself by denying its existence, even though the horses have moved I’ve identified their success by identifying the non runners who have given them free energy simply by being factored alongside them. prior to the previous race in the other thread for the breeders cup here is what I wrote. Identifying traverse law and free energy. I passed up the winner because I have an aversion to drug cheats prospering but the free energy he’d give in -either winning or losing- would go to the Japanese horse and on the traverse to proxy.
“ More conjecture here but
Two win selections to consider
Proxy
Ushba tesoro
Both win
Proxy drawn to receive the benefits here.
White abarrio has huge issues here not least the trainer’s record received a ten year ban for drug offences. Best left.Derma sogate
Bright future
BothEach way
Japanese horse the very interesting one here but temperamental but getting the breaks would take all the beating”November 4, 2023 at 23:22 #1669393Thanks for an explanation Sam.
Sorry I didn’t realise.
I thought the short priced favourites Idiomatic and Auguste Rodin won because they had the best form and AR getting a good run up the rail helping… But instead actually won because they had free energy from the non-runners that weren’t actually there and hadn’t been anywhere near the stalls. Just given free energy to the stall by their absence. Outstanding use of “science”.Brilliant.
Value Is EverythingNovember 4, 2023 at 23:37 #1669398Not running on Champions Day was a big help to Auguste Rodin.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
November 4, 2023 at 23:39 #1669399Time for a glass of wine and a lie down.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysNovember 4, 2023 at 23:44 #1669401Have a bottle Purwell and sleep through
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November 4, 2023 at 23:54 #1669402Purwell needs some free energy.
Value Is EverythingNovember 5, 2023 at 01:01 #1669407Tonight’s Selections based on Alexander method results
19:50
1st good night olive (win)
2nd yuri girl (win)
Unplaced melke yell ( e/w)
2030
Casa creed 3rd ( each way)
2110
Auguste Rodin 1st (win)
Broome unplaced (e/w)
2140
Idiomatic 1st (won)
Clairiere 4th ( e/w)2220
Derma Sotogake 2nd each way
Proxy 3rd (win)
I reprinted my comments from my posts on threads around the forum regarding their chances and because the results didn’t suit your argument you decided to resort to sarcasm saying you thought horses won because they were favourite ignoring the big priced third and second horses I selected. Remember I put these selections up BEFORE THEY RACE and point out that they may benefit from the draw from physics. I’m satisfied I’ve made a breakthrough combining form and physics the results appear to back that up. Without new discoveries there is no science gingertipster.November 5, 2023 at 09:13 #1669422For the record, Sporting Sam was kind enough to send me a private message that explains his research. While I remain sceptical (not cynical mind) as to the scientific veracity of it, it is most certainly interesting and well worth continuing with, if only to eventually prove it’s misguided
With such a plethora of data available to the horse bettor these days and a betting market that grows evermore strongly efficient the development of methods that lead to an ‘edge’ has never been more difficult.
Therefore a novel approach to gaining that elusive edge is to be applauded even if the great and the good and self-proclaimed betting ‘experts’ choose to ridicule it
Whether the quest to ‘beat the book’ is worth the effort nowadays with layers loath to lay a baked-bean to a split-pea is another matter entirely
Keep up the good work SS: paper profits may ensue, if not luvly-jubly filthy lucre
November 5, 2023 at 12:23 #1669444This time next year Rodders this time next year.
The underlying was penned prior to reading your post and bears 🐻 no reference to it.Burnt the midnight oil and should have enjoyed the Kip before work instead. But what a stunning night at the breeders and team Europe if you forget the french who don’t seem to hold anything other than their own racing to any value, we’re kicking ass again ala the Ryder cup close your eyes and we’re back in the common market again. The Irish showed the biggest prizes are there for the taking and I hope that David Evans who works closely with Micheal Appleby can add to Rohaan’s group success with another purchase to come here or Paris in the future as Appleby and the living the dream team have showed we can mix it now the Americans are off the lassix and some other gear the playing field has levelled. The other thing to note, the draw was absolutely crucial after all and the days of people ignoring it are going fast get with the draw as a trainer or be left behind. Physics does exist and the lucky few have grasped it and are leaving others trailing in their dust. ( just like those paddy power adverts with the talking horse’s 🐎.
MUNICH 1315
INDIA
Win
best most of this tiny field already and Appleby’s runner has cried off. That comes as no suprise as this filly already put the yards Siskany in its place when winning a group 1 last time out in Germany. Has the key stall 3 my thoughts on stall three in races above listed level are well documented as are my thoughts on the draw, a significant advantage is handed to this filly by the rebel romance crying off as the draw was four and hands energy in bundles to most of the field but with three pounds claimed here it all should go to last time out India who should be able to get on top late and close home with all that to bear.
November 5, 2023 at 13:41 #1669451Value Is EverythingNovember 5, 2023 at 14:22 #1669455Value Is EverythingNovember 6, 2023 at 07:02 #1669530Carry on regardless and the positivity has far outweighed all else.
November 6, 2023 at 13:15 #1669543“I reprinted my comments from my posts on threads around the forum regarding their chances and because the results didn’t suit your argument you decided to resort to sarcasm saying you thought horses won because they were favourite ignoring the big priced third and second horses I selected. Remember I put these selections up BEFORE THEY RACE and point out that they may benefit from the draw from physics. I’m satisfied I’ve made a breakthrough combining form and physics the results appear to back that up. Without new discoveries there is no science gingertipster”.
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I did not mention your other bets because I knew nothing about them, Sam. They were not on this thread. I am saying there were good reasons to back Auguste Rodin and Idiomatic The reason you gave of those originally drawn by their side being non-runners and therefore giving him “free energy” is not a good reason.
Similarly, am sure there were good reasons to back the horses you backed earlier in the card (even the ones at fairly big prices you had placed). Just not the “free energy” reason or Tesla’s principle of the Universe being run by the numbers 3, 6 and (particularly) 9.Sorry. Had you not said on page 1 of this thread (the first post since reopening the thread) “One thing Im happily open to is ridicule”. Then I would not have done so in what I thought a jovial manner. Have edited what I originally said, because you’re clearly not open to ridicule as much as you thought. But have left the gist, as we do have a big difference of opinion on 3, 6, 9 etc. Theracingforum is about debate after all, especially when choosing to put a betting thread in the Horse Racing section instead of DLAPs or TRANs.
As you said (quoted from Tesla) in that same post “If you only realise the magnificence of the 369 you will have the key to the universe“. I might think it’s nonsense, just put it down to me reading and not realising.
Anyone who’s a gardener and quotes Half Man Half Biscuit must be a good bloke.
Please do “carry on”. I read it is important to be positive with 3, 6, 9, Sam; and to write things down you want to come true (was it 6 times at this time of day?). So I’ll end by wishing you good luck, good luck, good luck, good luck, good luck, good luck.
Value Is EverythingNovember 6, 2023 at 13:45 #1669548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqhoPV7KII?si=s9qEOs3KA3PWI557
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysNovember 6, 2023 at 14:15 #1669551I won’t “go to heaven in a little rowing boat” or any other transportation.
Value Is EverythingNovember 6, 2023 at 16:15 #1669586Ginger will be going to Hell on a skateboard…
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November 6, 2023 at 17:21 #1669592Skateboard? Nah
In all probability…
Nobody is going to Hell.
and
Nobody is going to Heaven.I’ll lay anyone 1000/1 that Hell or Heaven exists.
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