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    Avatar photoBen_Bernanke
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    Played golf (pretty poorly) yesturday on a course a few minutes walk from Sandown (not the par 3 in the middle of the course) and the ground was pretty damn hard, I hit a couple of nice wedge shots that landed before the green and the ball would roll all the way over the green and end up in the rough behind it!

    Obviously I’m too crap to be able to get backspin, but the ground is most probably good to firm on course.

    Fascinating race either away, just a shame Real World pulled out, hope it doesn’t become too tactical.

    #1604834
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    Every chance the pace will go against bay bridge like it did last time

    Maybe native trail will be help up too with his stamina doubts?

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    Coltrane OR 104 and carrying 9st7lb was only 1.07 seconds slow for 2m50yds.

    Fair play to Cooperman so far – but he’s got another chance to reach for the sprinklers after racing tonight.

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    And Passion And Glory OR 109 9st9lb broke the 1m1f209yds standard by 0.21 seconds.

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    #1604849
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    Between the French horse and Native Trail if it remains the same tomorrow

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    #1604851
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    Cooper who, tbf IMO has produced an excellent summer Flat racing surface today, has said on Twitter that if he waters at all tonight it will be 2.5mm (edited) maximum.

    No rain forecast.

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    Beautiful, fast summer ground.

    I know, let’s put an inch of water all over it.

    :wacko:

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    25mm seems a lot to me especially when currently it is good (good to firm in places) and that we have heard others cotc (albeit at other courses) say they put on 5mm to maintain the going as it is.

    Only the Listed race today broke standard as the rest of the races were at leat 1sec slower, it was safe enough for Addeybb to run but not enough juice for him to run to form (although he could just not be the horse he was being 8 now).

    With regards to the race it will be interesting to see who will make it – I can’t see anyone other than Alenquer doing it as although he won his G1 at 10.5F he is a strong stayer at 12F so he will have little chance if it turns into a 4F burn up, which would suit the French horse seeing as how that is how a lot of their races are run.

    I still think Bay Bridge could be up to fending off the classic crop but this has the potential to get very messy with some bound to find trouble in running so being in front may be the best place to be.

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    Sorry, chaps, typo from me – 2.5mm.

    An inch would indeed have been a scandal.

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    #1604861
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    That makes more sense lol

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    Coral’s paying 3 places on this, one non runner and that will be gone though. I would not be confident at all of picking one to be in the top 3 never mind the winner.

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    Seems to me that in the conditions for tomorrow’s race (good-firm and lacking a proper pace horse) the betting should be closer together. So am now with the three outsiders.

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    If Cooper sticks to his word and the dry forecast is correct, I can see the ground being similar to what it was at York last August.

    Mishriff reminds me of Falbrav inasmuch as he isn’t a “superstar,” but he is a proven OR 125 Group 1 horse and 9/1 looks massive to me – he should be half those odds and on value grounds he has to be my bet.

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    I wonder whether Mishriff will be spot on for this as Gosden has spoken about what a very unpleasant experience he had in Riyadh with a fair bit of kickback going down his throat, he wasn’t ready for the POW so they have waited for this race so I would have a watching brief for him in this but I would be interested in him for the Juddmonte.

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    “Mishriff…9/1 looks massive to me – he should be half those odds”

    Probably not. I think this is a run out before the Juddmonte.

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    The older horses have questions to answer for me so the winner will probably be Vadeni or Native Trail. Vadeni looked a weapon last time and connections didn’t have to run here so looks a plus that they supplemented. Native Trail won’t mind the ground and the lack of pace gives him a good chance of staying. I’ve sided with the French horse out of the two. The weight for age telling again?

    #1604891
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    Ill be against the 3yo’s here, especially the french, modern games didnt stay and id be hesitant enough to believe el bodegon stepped up that much from his first run of the season at york, there 2yo form ties in aswell, i dont believe the 123 rating atall here and hes against some proper group 1 elders

    Place lay 3 places at 1/3ish

    Native trails irish guineas run was terrible, doubtful stayer to my eye

    Mishriff/alenquer will be my two against 9/1 & 17/2, slightly favouring mishriff

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