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June 26, 2022 at 07:54 #1604245
Couldn’t find a thread on this so have started this one.
I was very impressed with Vadeni in the Prix Du Jockey Club (French Derby), but I also think (given the notoriously tap happy Andrew Cooper is Clerk Of The Course at Sandown Park) Bay Bridge’s prospects of getting an easier surface at the Esher venue than he did at Royal Ascot must be much enhanced.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 26, 2022 at 08:32 #1604256Native Trail must be of interest, stepping up to a mile and a quarter for the first time.
Showers are forecast this week, so it may be prudent for Mr Cooper to refrain from turning on the taps just yet.
June 26, 2022 at 08:44 #1604265He doesn’t do “prudent,” Gladders – rumour has it one of his ancestors was Clerk Of The Course in the Old Testament – he took a pride in producing safe ground for Noah’s Ark.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 26, 2022 at 10:56 #1604307Bits and pieces of a light shower are forecast, so nothing that will change the ground a great deal.
June 26, 2022 at 10:57 #1604308I is on Bay Bridge 13-2 ew for this, but that may change depending on the opposition.
June 26, 2022 at 11:06 #1604312Vadeni looked like a rocket to me in the prix du jockey club
I’m very much looking forward to seeing him run again
June 26, 2022 at 23:22 #1604404Native Trail for me as always.
I”ll say no more.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...June 27, 2022 at 11:49 #1604421Switched to Vadeni 2-1. Been confirmed for the race.
June 27, 2022 at 16:27 #1604448Stating the obvious but race of the season so far heading our way.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 27, 2022 at 17:21 #1604455I take it Tudhope will be on Real World and Kingscote on Bay Bridge?
I’d have thought it would be a mistake if AOB runs both High Definition and Stone Age as both their best form is when leading. Ryan will ride one but if both run…?
Will Frankie be on one of the three?
Value Is EverythingJune 27, 2022 at 20:01 #1604477When I seen the line up, Native Trail is the obvious choice. The return to Sandown will suit him a lot better than the Curragh and Newmarket. Those extra two furlongs should play to his strengths much better than a mile.
My only slight concern would be the ground if it’s Gd/Fm.June 27, 2022 at 20:11 #1604478Andrew Cooper, Clerk Of The Course at Epsom Downs and Sandown Park, is a man on a religious mission to rid the world of ground with the word “Firm” in the going description.
Saint Andrew has an ongoing passionate ménage a trois love affair with the artificial watering systems at Epsom and Sandown so rest assured there will be give in the ground.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 27, 2022 at 21:43 #1604481“My only slight concern would be the ground if it’s Gd/Fm.”
It’s what he wants. If the ground went on the slow side of good before the Irish 2000 Guineas, the trainer said he’d have an excuse.
June 27, 2022 at 21:50 #1604482Must say the form book tells me that all Native Trail’s best form has been on quicker surfaces.
As I reckon it’s odds-on the circuit will get a good “Coopering” if it doesn’t rain, I don’t think Native Trail will get a quick surface on Saturday and he’s an Oasis Dream, trying 1m2f for the first time, who IMO made heavy weather of winning a sub-standard Irish 2,000 Guineas with give last time out.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 27, 2022 at 22:36 #1604484I’m sure I read Frankie Dettori been offered ride on Real World
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June 27, 2022 at 23:50 #1604485“Must say the form book tells me that all Native Trail’s best form has been on quicker surfaces”
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How Chezza?
Native Trail has only once run once on ground officially firmer than good. Good-firm, in the Group 2 Superlative as a two year old. Short Head victory over Masekela.
Has only beaten Racing Post Standard once – if you want to call that good-firm – a 3 1/2 lengths victory in the Group 3 Craven over Claymore at level weights,Ran once on going softer than good. Good-yielding in the Irish Guineas. 1 3/4 lengths victory over New Energy.
Every other run is on Good.
I’d have some doubts about Native Trail’s rounded action being as effective on genuine good-firm ground.
Although he has not yet run on softer than good-yielding and therefore is always a slight doubt about acting, I’d have less doubts about him acting on it than I would good-firm. That said, good-soft paces more emphasis on stamina. But his laziness also makes it more likely he’ll stay.Native Trail will always look unimpressive against lesser opposition – as he did in the Irish 2000 last time out – because he’s become lazy. Ever since the Dewhurst has always needed to be asked for his effort.
Native Trail might have more to come when coming up against better opposition, but will have to if he’s to win this.
Value Is EverythingJune 28, 2022 at 05:53 #1604488Only once on ground officially quicker than Good, but broke standard in the Craven and it was only 0.27 sec slow when he was beaten three parts of a length in the 2,000 Guineas.
His only run with official give resulted IMO in a very laboured Irish 2,000 Guineas win where for me he ran below previous levels as IMO it was a poor renewal (second, third and fourth all well beaten next time out).
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