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  • #473437
    andyod
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    Perhaps Murtagh was cleaning his hands(perspiration,saddle hair,sweat,dirt,etc) before greeting connections. He could be returning the towel to the girl rather than uncouthly discarding it.

    #473446
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    Looks like I am on my own here but it looks a bit suss to me – am not bad at body language and looks like the lass is certainly trying to act like she hasn’t been passed owt.

    All IMO of course!

    #473467
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    Some bad eyesight on this forum. Whip? Towel?

    The object is much smaller than those.

    If you see right at the start of the video Ms Lynam makes a beeline for Johnny and he turns to her as if she has said something to him. She then bizarrely cuts back behind the horse very quickly, leaving others to congratulate Johnny. You would think that having headed over so urgently she would have embraced him in congratulation, rather than racing away immediately. It seems that Johnny then switches something from his left hand, which was pulling the saddle off, into his right hand before passing it to Ms Lynam. It looks to me as if she is more focussed on the object and getting it into her bag, than enjoying what was a big win for the stable.

    Johnny Murtagh has said:-

    "I have nothing to hide but I just don’t want to speak about it for a couple of days until I have spoken to a few people"

    As always, when I have nothing to hide, I take a couple of days to speak to some people first.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #473538
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    Exactly SC. Bit odd this one……

    #473540
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    Given that both C4 & ATR had in depth coverage of the meeting surely it’s highly likely they have better footage of the alleged incident.
    With no trial involved why haven’t they shown it?

    #473542
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    I read that she claims it was her handing over a bit of a bridle strap, but def looks like Murtagh handing over something as she looks to have something in her hand as she drew her hand away.
    We shouldn’t laugh off the possibility of foul play, especially given Gary Steven’s recent comments about ‘buzzers’ which have been ‘outed’ in the US. BHA 100% right to investigate but they’ll struggle to ascertain the exact nature of the ‘thing’ you’d imagine.

    #473687
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    Steve I know it is small But I just said towel because it was easy to spell as opposed to handkerchief(tricky spelling)or unidentified object(you decide how small it is).I was thinking a small napkin or paper wipe.Something so insignificant you would never remember it unless you saw the photo.

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    BHA concludes inquiry into 2013 King’s Stand Stakes

    The British Horseracing Authority (BHA) has today announced the conclusion of its inquiries into an alleged post-race incident following the running of the 2013 Kings Stand Stakes at Royal Ascot on Tuesday 18 June 2013.

    The inquiries were instigated as a result of BHA being made aware of a video posted on YouTube which suggested that an unidentified item had been passed between Johnny Murtagh, rider of Sole Power (placed first) and Sarah Lynam, the daughter of trainer Eddie Lynam. The inquiry process was overseen by Jamie Stier, Director of Raceday Operations and Regulation for BHA.

    BHA’s inquiries found that nothing untoward had taken place and clearly established that after unsaddling Sole Power in the Winners Enclosure following the race Sarah Lynam placed the girth carried by Sole Power during the race, and which had been removed from the horses tack during unsaddling, over the saddle of Johnny Murtagh. It was also established that at no time did Johnny Murtagh pass any item to Sarah Lynam.

    As part of these inquiries Johnny Murtagh, Eddie Lynam, and Sarah Lynam were interviewed. Eddie Lynam also represented the interests of Mrs S Power, the owner of Sole Power. All parties were accompanied during the interviews by Mr Frank Ward, Frank Ward & Co. Solicitors, Dublin.

    Also reviewed was the official Stewards patrol footage of the race, together with all footage recorded by Channel 4 in their terrestrial coverage and high-quality footage of the incident (which can be found in a file attached to this press release) provided by At The Races.

    It was also noted that the Clerk of the Scales report from this race recorded Johnny Murtagh as having weighed out to ride Sole Power at 9st 4lb, the same weight he weighed in at following the race.

    Jamie Stier, Director of Raceday Operations and Regulation for BHA, said:

    “With these findings establishing that nothing untoward took place following the running of the 2013 Kings Stand Stakes, and that there had not been any breach of the Rules, the matter is now closed. BHA appreciates the assistance of At the Races and Channel 4 in providing requested footage in relation to this matter.”

    Notes to Editors:

    1. High quality broadcast footage of the incident, supplied by At The Races, can be found attached to this press release. Any broadcaster wishing to show this footage must contact At The Races for permission.

    2. The original YouTube video of the incident can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63SyyO3eHM

    #473892
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    Much ado about nothing as predicted …now Mr Stier , how about the Zarooni report , as you are still enjoying the full benefit of the Timeform comments in their latest Annual …..

    Lets be having it Sir , before you and your mate head back to Australia to spend more time with your families …….

    :mrgreen:

    In my opinion of course

    Ricky

    #474925
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    Here is the link to the BHA report which also has a video on it which shows their hands didn’t come anywhere near each other.

    http://www.britishhorseracing.presscent … s-4a9.aspx

    #474936
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    These clearer pictures, from a different angle, show how misleading the Youtube footage was.

    The only thing I would question is why Ms Lynam puts her hand forward open but when withdrawing it clearly closes her hand as if having taken hold of something?

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #474997
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    Her hand was not empty, she placed something black across the saddle, looks like a necktie. As he steps towards her, she slips the black item over the saddle.

    #475002
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    Her hand was not empty, she placed something black across the saddle, looks like a necktie. As he steps towards her, she slips the black item over the saddle.

    As stated in the BHA report it was the girth.

    #475003
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    Cased closed.

    The thing that concerned me was her tell-tale sweep of her hair with her hand after the incident had passed.

    I’ve been a forensic behaviour expert for at least 30 years now and in my expert opinion, this is definitely a sign of something definitely happening. Probably.

    Mike

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