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Hugh Taylor is a shining example to all who doubt that it is possible to win (and win well) on low-grade racing.
Exactly, I don’t know why punters don’t just back what Hugh tips. According to ATR he was 282 points in profit for 2017, his 9th consecutive winning year.
I’ve had a massive about turn over the past year with the ‘dross’ racing. Up until then, I would not touch any racing midweek hardly, certainly not any low grade stuff. I had an A/W phobia. I was wrong though, there are normally some excellent punting opportunities on a daily basis. The markets seem to be so weak, horses seem to often drift alarmingly late morning as a few sheckles comes in for something else. Case in point yesterday at Wolves with the Mulholland horse Willyegolassiego. A fast improving mare on her flat A/W starts and drawn well, I made her a 3-1 shot max in a race full of no hopers. Late morning yesterday it had drifted from 4’s, to 7’s. On a Saturday in the Summer I’d be panicing with a drift like that on any horse. Winter ‘dross’ racing, it seems to regularly be the norm though. An hour or so before the race she was backed back in from 7’s into 9-4. Then drifted to 7-2 at the off. That’s a pretty crazy market, but it gives a massive chance to get some real value. She won quite easily.
The pool of jockeys are not quite as good, so a good one stands right out and wins far more than his/her fair share too.
Hugh Taylor is a shining example to all who doubt that it is possible to win (and win well) on low-grade racing.
Exactly, I don’t know why punters don’t just back what Hugh tips. According to ATR he was 282 points in profit for 2017, his 7th consecutive winning year.
perhaps but as a punter if you just back his tips and nothing else bookies will wise up to it and perhaps limit you, and of course you’ll be backing them at shorter odds than he is advertising.
I think the main issue I have with following tipsters is that it takes away perhaps the main reason for punting in the first place (along with the obvious, the adrenaline rush) that of the mental struggle of trying to find the winner. I like analysing races and trying to come up with a winner, not just piggybacking someone else, even though from the financial point of view I’d probably do better just to follow tipsters rather than pick out my own bets.
I’ve had a massive about turn over the past year with the ‘dross’ racing. Up until then, I would not touch any racing midweek hardly, certainly not any low grade stuff. I had an A/W phobia. I was wrong though, there are normally some excellent punting opportunities on a daily basis. The markets seem to be so weak, horses seem to often drift alarmingly late morning as a few sheckles comes in for something else. Case in point yesterday at Wolves with the Mulholland horse Willyegolassiego. A fast improving mare on her flat A/W starts and drawn well, I made her a 3-1 shot max in a race full of no hopers. Late morning yesterday it had drifted from 4’s, to 7’s. On a Saturday in the Summer I’d be panicing with a drift like that on any horse. Winter ‘dross’ racing, it seems to regularly be the norm though. An hour or so before the race she was backed back in from 7’s into 9-4. Then drifted to 7-2 at the off. That’s a pretty crazy market, but it gives a massive chance to get some real value. She won quite easily.
The pool of jockeys are not quite as good, so a good one stands right out and wins far more than his/her fair share too.
I don’t think there’s a hard and fast rule about punting. If taking angles on lower level racing is the way forward, then stick with it.
Personally though I just find watching lower class racing too dull to really care enough to actually put any work into it. At least with higher-class animals there’s more of an appetite to at least watch the videos of the horses.
I think a lot of losing punters just simply fail to be honest with themselves.
Once you get to the stage of being able to understand a race and being able to make your own mind up, it can be hard to accept that you have simply picked the wrong horse if your horse losses by a distance. The amount of times I see friends and others on message boards who keep backing the same horse because they feel it owes them. People have been following horses off cliffs ever since i got into racing some 35 years ago.
Have to admit i still fall into this trap every now and again. Alpha Des Obeaux being the most recent horse, that after backing for a season and not admitting to myself i got the RSA wrong, i continued to lose on, until i finally drew a line under it before the Munster…..Which of course he went and won!
Unfortunately it is a game that cant be learned quickly and no shortcuts can be taken. I have never really been able to make it pay significantly long term, so if you can keep yourself in the plus and enjoy the sport you are doing well in my book.
People have been following horses off cliffs ever since i got into racing some 35 years ago.
yes and always felt like that was a loser attitude, although it’s hard not to be human in that respect and get annoyed when a horse you like ends up winning.
for example on the william hill podcast they do a feature at the end on “players you don’t want to see win this week” when the tipsters talk about players they nearly backed but didn’t quite make the cut. of course whether they win or not should be irrelevant, if you haven’t backed them, but never seems to be.
I’ll have to check that out; I have W Hill racing radio on every day when I’m at home, and highly entertaining it is, too. Our very own Rory is doing particularly well in the tipping department at the moment.
O i do agree Judge, as i mentioned something i am particularly aware off, yet still fall into the trap. Find myself also doing it the other way round, with refusing to think a horse is a good thing when previously writing it off.
Find myself thinking that way about Might Bite. Was 100% opposing him leading up to the RSA last year and have never actually backed him. If i take my “gut feeling” out of it, the evidence is well and truly there that he is top class and a worthy fav for the Gold cup. I still wont be backing him though.
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