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…jumping up and down when Hunter’s Light won. ‘Course, the bookie’s weren’t on camera.
Well you certainly didn’t see me jumping up & down as I’d backed Debussy. It’s my own stupid fault – horses need more than eleven days between runs really.
This low class racing (Listed? What’s that? Piffle that’s what!) is all bent as a nine bob note.
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No surprise to see the 2nd string clocking in for the Saeed Bin Suroor team; it’s a fair bet that it happens more with his charges than any other stable in British racing. It’s unlikely to be deliberate either, as the operation is clearly not geared toward landing betting touches.
Someone once intimated (Fist; if memory serves) that he overtrains his horses, and it’s not hard to believe, given the occurence of such incidents, and the high number of his charges sidelined through injury each season?You’ve got to hand it to the canny Godolphin b******s, hiding one away in a Group 2 and a Group 3 and then bringing it out for a quiet little coup in a Listed Race. I’m sure the Sheikh and his cronies did the rounds of the betting shops spreading half a million pounds in fivers and tenners, maybe the odd twenty on the exchanges. A lot of leg work but, hey, the oil money might run out soon…
Alternatively, maybe it was horse that was tried out to see if it could cope with Group races and then dropped back to the class it had won in.
Rob
what a come down for a once great forum to be reduced to rubbish like this
The betfair forum must be deserted …….
Ricky
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Gross over-reaction hardly does the forum any favours, either!
I’m with Ricky
TRF was always a must read twice a day for me and occasional post. Now it’s probably a weekly visit with even less regular comment & actually took me a couple of minutes to log in just to get round the floating advert that covered the log-in section!Discussing the race at the track with some pals, just after the preceding race. One of them was considering backing Hunters Light, but concerned whether he’d act on the soft ground. I said he’d run below form on a soft surface before (half expected him to be a non-runner), but if you ignore that stat (which it’s possible could be coincidence) he’d have a chance. Prior to the Voltigeur (where travelled well for a long way) had looked a progressive animal, unlike many in this field.
Anyway, like all Godolphin horses on the day in good shape, shiny coats and well muscled up in the paddock. Debussy won his latest start at Chester where pulled quite hard early, not surprised to see him dropped out with three other prominent runners here. Never inclined to believe Roodeye form anyway and it wasn’t up to 2010 form for Gosden which he seemed priced up on. Prince Siegfried, the other Godolphin representitive had won his last two races, but hardly in good style. Almost giving the race away last time. Hunters Light certainly had a better chance than most third strings (who often go off at a bigger price than their form entitles them to).
I hadn’t thought about backing Hunters Light, but couldn’t resist a small bet with 25/1 priced up on the Tote around five minutes before the off. As always, nor could many others resist, 26 plummeted to 11.3 by off time. Wish it hadn’t have won, as the main bet (each way) was the second, Fallen Idol, so didn’t exactly "jump up and down" to cheer it home.
Unfortunately, my pal decided not to take the chance on the ground for Hunters Light. Am sure it is not the first time I’ve put someone off, then ended up backing it myself because of the price. Value is everything, well almost. Ironically, had it been 11.3 at time of selection my money would have remained in my pocket too. It was my turn for the drinks.Value Is EverythingApologies if my tongue in cheek reply to the original post irritated anyone. Less so I suspect than the starting of these threads, which I am trying hard to ignore but it’s not always that easy.
Suffice to say that the inference is that there may be something out of order with a runner winning at 10/1 in a class it has won in before. The fact that there was a stablemate running is of little relevance since the grade would give limited opportunites over the season. If you have horses suited by similar grade and consditinos they are likely to end up racing each other.
Rob
Is it time all this type of thread were put in their own bigger thread or even section?
Don’t want them banned, but may be Corm could move all comments about rides in to one thread/section? So they don’t clutter the place up or put other posters off visiting.
Not that there are many who start this kind of thread anyway, in fact it’s usually the same person.
Value Is Everythingwhat a come down for a once great forum to be reduced to rubbish like this
The betfair forum must be deserted …….
Ricky
being a reader rather than a contributor myself i do find it somewhat hypocritical for those quick to question the content of the forum when they themselves have nothing to offer this great place other than the odd snipe at those who are prepared to comment on this board! Either Put up or Shut up would seem the appropriate phrase for those who constantly respond with ‘Where have all the great posters gone’? Well at least you obviously dont include yourselves in the above statement!
Getting back to the racing at Goodwood…
Anyone know if there has ever been four different jockeys winning for the same owner on one card before?Dettori, Murgia, Durcan and Ajtebi.
Value Is Everythingwhat a come down for a once great forum to be reduced to rubbish like this
Any forum is merely as good or bad as the actions of its posters determine it to be. If the perception is that this one is increasingly full of rubbish, then maybe the onus is on those posters who believe they can produce something of worth to post in sufficient quantity to address that quality / tat imbalance.
Where there’s life there’s hope – TRF isn’t a toxic brand quite yet.
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Per Hunter’s Light, the fact that his two worst-rated performances on turf hitherto had been recorded on easy going might have given yesterday’s victory a look of incredulity to some.
That wouldn’t have told the whole story, though, as his performance in the Tercentenary at Ascot was tempered by keen-pulling tendencies which simply weren’t punished in the same way in a lower grade at Hamilton; whilst the going at York was simply called good to soft as there’s no such official description as "horrible" or "glue".
Note also a previous career-best form effort in the Gordon at yesterday’s venue; an immediate family not wholly shy of effectiveness at 1m2f; plus the fact this was his easiest assignment (grade-wise, at least) since that Hamilton victory.
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In fairness,
It does seem only one or two posters who persist in starting this type of thread anyway.
Value Is EverythingIn fairness,
It does seem only one or two posters who persist in starting this type of thread anyway.
Still sitting in judgement, anyone would think you own the Forum.
Hopefully, others will take on board the previous post from Oh So Sharp.
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In fairness,
It does seem only one or two posters who persist in starting this type of thread anyway.
Too True. Then the same posters (plus sock puppets) accuse the rest of us of "owning the Forum" and suchlike tosh, if they’re challenged. A plague on them. No wonder most industry pros don’t post as much as they once did.
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