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His form throughout career makes weird reading purely on SPs , goes out at 250s , does nothing, drops to 40s in handicap , fair enough I suppose ,maybe light in first time , does not a lot , then goes out at 11/2 in broadly similar race next up . All those races mid prep so no real fitness issues youd think . Goes out at 100s at Chepstow beaten 70 lengths , then next up similar race Exeter 11s . All way through his form to me looks odd .
He was crawling all over those first two this week on 11st odd , if it were me I wouldnt be paying the training fees for those behind too much longer .5 runs for last trainer 4 on good , one soft ,take out the soft , on good 3 runs he beats 4 in total beaten out of sight , the other 3rd of 18 beaten 3 lengths . Just seems no pattern to form at all
I vaguely remember a story told by John Francombe:
Trainer, “Why did you pull him up John?”
Francombe, “He made a funny noise, Sir.”
Trainer, “What sort of noise?”
Francombe, “Hee haw, hee haw!”All right! I’ll get my coat.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysThe BHA has announced Kitts cannot ride or even attend a racecourse whilst their enquiry is ongoing.
This jockey looks like a professional criminal and he is involved in this case as well:
Mister Greatrex surely taught him a few things….
I think Kitts is a daft kid and far too much media focus is on him and far too little thus far is on the owner – have the RP even reported trying to contact him for comment, yet?
So the lad has one previous this season – look at the entire career of the owner’s Breffniboy.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I don’t disagree. Why is Kitts the only one barred while the BHA investigate this fiasco?
And, as it seems they have now committed to looking into this ride, how deep are they willing to dig?
Owner now given a big splash on the Post site, claiming innocence and also that he didn’t insist on Kitts taking the ride.
So the trainer wanted Carver, the owner now claims he didn’t ask for Kitts, so how did he end up with the ride. May just be coincidence, but Carver and Kitts both have the same agent, Sam Stronge.
He’s also quoted as saying:
“I’ve had 26 winners with trainers – Philip Hobbs, Chris Down, you name them, I’ve been with them all.”
Well Racing Post stats show him as having one runner with Chris Down and two runners with Philip Hobbs and none of those won. That’s compared to 85 runners and 17 winners with Farrelly. He’s employed 17 different trainers in total over the period covered by the Post database – i.e 1988 – 2023.
It seems Carver was not qualified to ride in the race, and Honour now says it was a race at Newton Abbott he was referring to when mentioning his jockey preference. I assume Hillsin was also entered in the NA race.
It appears that the only own who knows who stopped the horse, or at least ordered him to stop it, is Kitts, and I suspect he will take the rap rather than name the perp.
A side issue here – the jock often has some form of get out by adapting the trainer’s instructions. Maybe it’s time to remove that option with the trainer allowed only to tell the jockey of his mount’s quirks and preferences: “He does best when held up/prominent etc etc”. Or, “I could not get him as fit as I wanted to. I doubt he’s fit enough to win, but you never know, though a hard race would set him back and affect his welfare.”
We have a horse, a 22yo jockey, a 44yo trainer and a 79yo owner, who has in the past owned a horse that was beaten out of sight twice at long odds then bolted up when suddenly a heavily-backed favourite off just a few pounds lower and was actually 22lb higher when completing a sequence two months later.
Banning the horse in isolation and finding ways to isolate the young jockey in this scenario won’t clean up racing.
If the horse can’t race and Dylan Kitts can’t ride while this inquiry takes place, I’m not sure why the trainer can saddle runners and the owner can still see his colours on a racecourse via anything else he owns.
To summarise: Thus far the effectively banned are a 22yo conditional jockey – and the horse!
If those aren’t the softest of soft targets, they will do until soft targets come along.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’m told you could have backed Hillsin at 13 (12/1) to win £1,200 (backer’s stake £100) less commission literally all the way up the run in to the line.
If so, that’s an astonishingly-big price for a horse that was apparently the only one on the bit just after jumping the last – you’d surely expect it to have gone odds-on.
I’d imagine the BHA would be keen to interview whoever was offering those odds.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Thanks for the information, Ian.
In another other case, the horse would have traded at around even money or maybe less after jumping the last. How come no one got heavily involved? And what was the plan? To stop the horse the way they did and back it next time at about 8/11….
Nothing makes sense, especially with this lad doing the same thing in the space of 8-10 weeks…..
Now, if you’re Brian Barr (or anyone else) why would you accept the owner’s horses straight away without the investigation being completed?
Many might have got involved in backing in running, but the perp laid everything knowing the horse would not win. It was, as I understand it, a laying coup. Figures from Betfair will doubtless be passed to the BHA. There might well have been an intention too to have the horse win his next race; who knows?
Kitts’ excuses on Jet of Dreams:
“He felt he was hanging and was making a noise, which he’s done in the past.” and“…and was hanging left-handed due to soreness in his near-fore tendon, so a more cautious ride was required and a more “vigorous” effort would not have improved the horse’s placing.”
Kitts excuse on Hillsin:
“However, he said the horse made a respiratory noise in the back straight, which continued on “several” occasions and hung badly right-handed.”
Both just about same?
You seem myopically-focussed on the jockey, ERL.
What do you think the background influences might be to the two rides in question?
Would warning off Dylan Kitts clean up racing?
I think this goes a lot deeper than the young conditional jockey.
Because struggling young riders like Dylan Kitts are ten a penny and other vehicles for this sort of thing can easily be found.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’m not just focussing on the kid, Ian. There is a lot more that needs to be investigated and we’ll see what the BHA finds out.
The background influences are always the same, making some cash on the exchanges while laying a horse that seems to have the race in the bag at prohibitive odds.
I know, it’s not only the kid who should get punished, but try to make an argument against the owner….
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