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- June 13, 2025 at 16:46 #1732872
Hmmmmm. I wonder which is more important: making racecourse attendance cheaper and more attractive to all, or ensuring that a small minority get 5-2 instead of 9-4?
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June 13, 2025 at 16:49 #1732874Do you want to bet blind into a Tote pool with a huge takeout, Glad?
Where will Ginger get his value then?
June 13, 2025 at 16:50 #1732875The vast majority of betting people will gamble mo matter what.
June 13, 2025 at 16:54 #1732878Question neatly dodged.
June 13, 2025 at 17:10 #1732881To reiterate: the average person who fancies number 5 in the 3.30 will bet on it no matter what.
As for the “huge takeout”, I’d far rather it be spent to subsidise admission costs than go into Denise Coates’ pockets.
June 13, 2025 at 18:53 #1732894£50 for a child to see the horses in the paddock ridiculous. Reduce pries on entrance and food and drink and promote it like hell. Seems courses want to squeeze as much out of the regular punters and not bother to attract new ones. A sure fire recipe for disaster.
June 13, 2025 at 20:49 #1732907You dodged the question, Glad. I asked about you, not other people.
You regularly post about the prices you have taken with bookmakers. You can kiss goodbye to that if you get the Tote monopoly you desire.
Why not bet with the Tote instead of the bookmakers you evidently despise so much and practice what you preach?
June 14, 2025 at 05:27 #1732934You’ve got to look at the bigger picture CAS rather than whether Ginger can get the value or you might get 5/2 about a 9/4 shot. There would be bigger pools with a monopoly and plenty of value for Ginger to grasp, particularly at the bigger meetings. Ginger is exactly the sort of person who would benefit from a Tote monopoly, whether he knows that or not is another matter lol. The deductions wouldn’t be more than currently with bookmakers, if you can get a bet on with them.
That woman at Bet 365 pockets hundreds of millions a year, she needs some of that for all the hiring and firing she does with the Stoke City’s managers job. Yet I was banned from betting with her rancid firm after 3 losing £50 bets.
Rest easy though CAS a Tote monopoly wont happen, racing will just continue to stumble on in the same way. Hopefully Lord Allen can shake things up a bit though.
June 14, 2025 at 07:13 #1732938And you’re (once again) missing the point, CAS.
If the only option were a pari-mutuel system, people would use it.
The bigger issue regarding betting turnover is that, whereas horse racing used to have the gambling market pretty much to itself, there are now myriad options for those seeking the “thrill” of having a flutter.
June 14, 2025 at 12:14 #1732983“A Tote monopoly wont happen”.
It certainly won’t. It’s a pipe dream. I remember Lord Zetland talking about it in the late 1980s.
I wouldn’t worry about being banned by Bet365. Hasn’t everyone?
June 14, 2025 at 12:21 #1732985“I wouldn’t worry about being banned by Bet365. Hasn’t everyone? ;-)”
Doubt there’s too many banned without even backing a winner though. The scum could have least given me the chance to win my money back
June 14, 2025 at 12:26 #1732987I am not defending them but I assume you beat the SP on all three bets? Otherwise, on what grounds were you banned?
June 14, 2025 at 13:00 #1732994Back to the subject of admission fees, I was surprised to hear it is £45 to get into Towcester for the Greyhound Derby tonight! It used to be a tenner at good old Wimbledon.
June 14, 2025 at 19:03 #1733042I’m going to the punk all dayer at bellahouston park in Glasgow next Saturday. Will get the bus through from edinburgh,which is free for over 60s in Scotland. Then a bus to my travelodge,free, then to the gig. £72 to see the pistols,stranglers,undertones,rezillos,skids and the buzzcocks. Yes that is an outlier for prices but a huge attendance now happening. Racecourses,bar the likes of York and Chester,will struggle to stay afloat until they become pro active in attractinga new and younger audience. Worrying to say the least.
June 29, 2025 at 10:41 #1735052I’ve just noticed that today’s Irish Derby card has nine races – one Group One, two Group Threes and a whopping six handicaps.
Not that different a card to its Epsom counterpart, then, but general admission is only €45.00 on the day. Far better value, in my opinion.
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