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    smallbutmighty
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    What are the rules regarding a horse being nominated as a non-runner, by the trainer, after having been declared to run?

    Am I right in thinking the trainer can self-certificate (as opposed to a vet’s cert) stating a reason a horse can’t run? Are their restrictions on what is acceptable?

    Is there any kind of benefit (to trainer, or owner? or in betting terms) for declaring a horse to run, then giving it a non-runner? Does declarations (as oposed to actual starters) do anything to a trainer’s statistics? Is a horse qualified for anything if it is declared but doesn’t run? Does the trainer/owner still have to pay full entry fee?

    #217672
    quadrilla
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    Tricast.

    Normally a bet only for handicaps. If 8+ runners are declared, then a tricast is still a valid bet, even if there are N/R’s. I’m waiting for an 8+ runner handicap race reduced to 3 runners. :lol:

    #217675
    apracing
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    Yes, the trainer can self certify, but the horse cannot run anywhere for six days after that – with a vets certificate, it can even run the next day.

    The other justification for a non runner is going change.

    The owner still pays the entry fee even if the horse doesn’t run, but of course saves on the cost of transport and the riding fee.

    #217679
    smallbutmighty
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    But I guess it could affect jockeys detrimentaly if engaged to ride a horse that becomes a non-runner, and they can’t get on an alternative mount, or to another meeting? Do they only get any riding fee at all if actualy get on the horse?

    #217695
    mightyfine
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    You use to recieve the riding fee on weighing out for a ride. However i think that it has changed and that you have to come under orders at the start.

    No ride = no fee, so if you are jocked off at the races by another jockey you get nothing, and if it was your only ride you would incur costs such as travel.

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    halfwaytoheaven
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    Tricast.

    Normally a bet only for handicaps. If 8+ runners are declared, then a tricast is still a valid bet, even if there are N/R’s. I’m waiting for an 8+ runner handicap race reduced to 3 runners. :lol:

    Close one today, Quad

    Theres a 12 runner handicap at Haydock (15:45) thats been reduced to 5!

    #217854
    Relkeel
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    Quad

    Sorry to pour cold water over your fiendish scheme, but a race ceases to be a tricast race when there are less than 6 runners.

    Any tricasts placed on such races (yesterday’s 3.45 Haydock, for example) become forecasts on the first 2 name selections.

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