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I’m in the same boat as you ‘himself’. Never after timed in my life but the only opportunity i got to see it was on the beeb so i ran upstairs and had a wee flutter.
It has to be said that was fantastic. It had the race won from a good bit out, then just cruised into position and said "i’ll see you at the finishing line mates".
Hannon senior was spot on when he said the horse would be 4/6 for next years guineas if he were trained by AOB!
Probably means very little. Hubris I would image will have a steady flow of cash coming for him but as this has a history of being more open than it looks they will take chances on lots of them by the end of the day.
I wouldn’t worry too much about stable form and viruses Ginge. You obviously like me never paid much attention to yesterdays results and probably still don’t know..
Richard Hannon sent out 4 runners and they all won yeasterday so the virus must be working……if he could bottle it he’d make fortune
Well done, Fist, you must be delighted with today. I didn’t fancy MCM one iota and you got lucky with him but no complaints about that.
Fantastic performance but looks every inch a sprinter- I’d be very surprised if he gets a mile.
Stunning performance but I think Corals are right to offer 16s. On pedigree he’s going to struggle to get a mile and it’s fair to say that unless you’re a genius, you don’t get Coventry winners winning the Guineas.
Fantastic performance but looks every inch a sprinter- I’d be very surprised if he gets a mile.
Thats my reservation as well Carvs which is why I’m not interested in the 10/1 about the Guineas. He has stamina on his damns side, and seven furlong stamina from his sire but such is the speed he shows he really does look a sprinter, he was fastest horse in the Coventry from the first few strides.
Fantastic performance but looks every inch a sprinter- I’d be very surprised if he gets a mile.
Strange thing is I agree with you Carv, I don’t think he’ll stay either. Yet I have taken the 16/1 about the 2000 Guineas. I expect that price to go and be able to lay it back. Do believe it has a better than 6% chance of winning at Newmarket next May.
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Value Is EverythingStunning performance but I think Corals are right to offer 16s. On pedigree he’s going to struggle to get a mile and it’s fair to say that unless you’re a genius, you don’t get Coventry winners winning the Guineas.
Yes, I think Corals will probably be more concerned at how they offered 16/1 after the Newbury maiden.
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Cheers Zarkava I’m not complaining.
I can understand your resevations about him getting a mile lads. Sometimes they are just so fast over 6 furlongs a mile is impossible.
Anyone know if it was a very fast time or not?
What I really liked about this horse is how easily he stettled in front.
He looked more like a Fame and Glory having being dropped in than he did a horse blazing the trail.He wasn’t trying to pull your man’s arms out he looked really relaxed.
He looks a real easy horse to ride and if he makes natural improvement if he’s bred to stay 7 furlongs with those attributes ghe’ll get further.I would like a bet Hannon runs him over 7f and if he does the same over that trip he’ll be 2/1 fav at best.
Don’t know who went 10’s but it’s not there now and I was on the phone when he hit the furlong marker
8/1 looks a very good bet to me.Anyone know if it was a very fast time or not?
Don’t know who went 10’s but it’s not there now and I was on the phone when he hit the furlong marker
8/1 looks a very good bet to me.0.51 secs slower than the record.
As for backing him for next year’s Guineas, hmm. I think you should have taken the money and ran. When a horse puts up a performance like that, you have to wonder if they’ll still be racing in May, let alone up to winning a Guineas. Anyone know how big he is?
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16/1 I must be geting slow I just took 8/1 which seems to be the general price. Beautifully relaxed horse, apparantly bred to get 7 furlongs. Agree with my old mate "H" Champion in the making.
I would suggest to AOB keep your best horses for the Derby absolutely no sense in sending them to Newmarket now
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Fantastic performance but looks every inch a sprinter- I’d be very surprised if he gets a mile.
Strange thing is I agree with you Carv, I don’t think he’ll stay either. Yet I have taken the 16/1 about the 2000 Guineas. I expect that price to go and be able to lay it back. Do believe it has a better than 6% chance of winning at Newmarket next May.
Mark
Hopefully we’ll find out that when he runs over 7 furlongs next! He said hopefully.
I was wondering how come you got 16/1 Ginge then I relaise from your other post you backed him well before todays race. Well done on that
Bet365 were going 20/1 and Stan James 33/1 and 25/1 around the same time as Corals were going 16/1 and I never even gave it thought.
Wish I had as I think he has a very good chance of staying. Unless those were complete monkees he has enough class that’s for sure.
he problem with laying it back is if he does run over 7 and gets beat you wont be probably wont be a bale to without a big % loss. So lets hope he does run and wins.
An excellent performance and in a way I’m glad I backed Barzan to beat him on debut as it made me stand up and take notice of what potential he appeared to have. Wish I’d got on earlier than the 9/4 I got.
I thought today was so impressive as it appeared the other fancied runners (Red Jazz, No Hubris and Alsram) all went straight up to try and set the pace with Canford Cliffs with a view to trying to take the sting out of his finish. All that did was proceed to leave them empty after 4.5 furlongs and CC just sauntered away, leaving horses from off the pace to close in for the minors. I thought that Xtensions run was very much worth noting as he came with a very strong run towards the end. Can’t help but think that Adam Kirby followed instructions to a tee but with hindsight, connections will wish he was a little closer at the 2 marker.
Any thoughts on Xtension for the future?
Fist,
No I did not back Canford Cliffs before today’s race.
Was watching BBC1 and Gary Wiltshire said he’s 8/1 with one bookie, 10/1 with another, yet 16/1 with Corals. Before he finished talking I was on the phone. Coral’s girl did not have prices but went to talk to her supervisor. Had to wait a while but she came back and said I could have the 16/1. Doubt it lasted long.
Canford Cliffs shows such speed I doubt if he will stay, something like 60 / 40 against. I suspect he’ll be kept to 6f at least until after the Middle Park.
Hopefully will be able to lay it off before Canford Cliffs runs next.
Shame you’re the other side of the world Fist, otherwise you could have some 9’s with me now.Mark
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Rather reminiscent of Three Valleys, wasn’t it?
Recent history has taught us that all may not be as it seems with apparently indestructible juveniles – the above and Rainbow View being pertinent examples – and talk of the 2000 Guineas is ridiculously premature.
The fact that he hasn’t improved away from Rakaan would make his next run very much a watching brief for me and it doesn’t take much to go from ‘freakish’ to ‘also-ran’ at the top level.
Rather reminiscent of Three Valleys, wasn’t it?
Recent history has taught us that all may not be as it seems with apparently indestructible juveniles – the above and Rainbow View being pertinent examples – and talk of the 2000 Guineas is ridiculously premature.
The fact that he hasn’t improved away from Rakaan would make his next run very much a watching brief for me and it doesn’t take much to go from ‘freakish’ to ‘also-ran’ at the top level.
Was it? For those with a longer memory it was probably reminiscent of Mill Reef as well.
In an age when numerous unraced horses will receive quotes for the Classics it is not premature to be quoting a 6 length Coventry winner for the 2,000 Guineas.
The idea that he hasn’t improved because he destroyed Rakaan by the same margin as on debut is too ludicrous for words. Rakaan’s running just confirmed that the Newbury race was an above average maiden.
This was a rarity in that it was gamble that stretched over a month and it was great to see it landed in such style. Visually it was probably the Royal Ascot equivalent of Dunguib at Cheltenham.
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