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- April 23, 2008 at 11:03 #7550
Looked a pretty impressive winner at Cheltenham on only his second start. It didn’t immediately strike me that those behind were going to improve past him. 5/2 looked reasonable but it seems from Oddschecker that they can’t give him away. He is the form pick – is there a problem we don’t know about? If he flops it will certainly look like it.
April 23, 2008 at 11:14 #159387in the last few years the winner of the Cheltenham race has not done well at this one maybe thats the reason………..?? Cork All star and Hairy Molly are to recent ones….
April 23, 2008 at 11:36 #159392Mullins had a bumper winner at Cork last Sunday so I’d say the stable in general are ok.
April 23, 2008 at 11:43 #159394Mullins had a bumper winner at Cork last Sunday so I’d say the stable in general are ok.
and yesterday……..
April 23, 2008 at 11:52 #159395
April 23, 2008 at 13:57 #159407To be fair most of the field are drifting in light of the support for Total Excitement – 33s into 12s.
April 23, 2008 at 14:03 #159408To be fair most of the field are drifting in light of the support for Total Excitement – 33s into 12s.
Given the choice between a horse who has struggled to win a bumper and the Cheltenham Fesival Bumper winner which one would seem the most likely winner?
April 23, 2008 at 14:19 #159414That’s why one is 5/2 and the other was 33/1: it’s all about the price, and 5/2 was too short given how competitive this race is.
April 23, 2008 at 14:40 #159416That’s why one is 5/2 and the other was 33/1: it’s all about the price, and 5/2 was too short given how competitive this race is.
The bumper is less competitive than the Cheltenham equivalent so 5/2 would have been far from unreasonable. As for the ‘springer’ 33/1 would have seemed about right on what it has shown on the track.
April 23, 2008 at 16:22 #159445He’s outstayed them all at Cheltenham and looked very much at home on the track.
This different course may not act so much in his favour so bookies will take the chance on him.
I think they are taking the risk that in this class Punchestown may not be as suitable to him.
He won here but not in this class and he didn’t exactly go to Cheltenham with a lot of confidenece behind him for a Mullins horse.
I don’t think the would be gambles on other amount to much as if this was being run at Chelteham now he would be nearer 11/10 than 0/30.
Great price and would kick myself if I bet against him and he won.
April 23, 2008 at 16:44 #1594529/2 unbelievable
April 23, 2008 at 21:35 #159527To say the least it will be interesting to see how he progresses next season. I presume he will start at the minimum trip although he should stay further. His full brother (Hot Zone) is clearly in a different league so it is probably unwise to read too much into the way he has been campaigned. The dam is a full sister to Hidebound who despite being by Buckskin showed plenty of promise over the minimum trip. Whichever way he goes I suspect Cousin Vinny would now be favourite for both Cheltenham novice events if markets existed.
April 23, 2008 at 21:43 #159531His (punter/bookmaker) owner was interviewed before the race on TV and said connections were not backing him primarily due to the poor record of Cheltenham Bumper winners in the race.
Mullins was interviewed after the race and said the horse had worked three times since Cheltenham ……….. didn’t work well at home on the first two occasions but was better when taken away to work last Saturday.
One of the major on-track layers was asked about the drift and said they had major liabilities on CR and EI.April 24, 2008 at 10:20 #159601he is going to be some horse next year, 10/1 for the supreme looks a great e/w bet all ready
April 24, 2008 at 11:27 #159624What happens if he can’t jump?

Colin
April 24, 2008 at 11:29 #159625Willy Mullins said he schooled him after Cheltenham and he makes a lovley shape when he jumps a hurdle and he cant wait to see how good he is next year…10/1 nice price….
April 24, 2008 at 12:03 #159632Where is the 10/1 Batman?
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