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On another subject, does anyone else feel like smashing the radio against the wall when Gough’s cricket show comes on? Radio five used to do quite decent shows with Agnew and Gower, but this egocentric (its all ME ME ME isnt it?) back slapping matey drivel chruned out every Thursday is a complete waste of airtime
It’s certainly not half as informative as it could be where pre- and post-analysis of matches, discussion of squads / countries / playing techniques, etc,. are concerned. I’d level the same accusation at Darren Campbell’s athletics equivalent, too, and if anything that makes for a tougher listen than the cricket show as Campbell is a far less natural broadcaster than Gough.
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It’s a reflection of the times when 40 is regarded as ‘old’ for a professional cricketer. A combination of too much cricket and better pay than in the past perhaps.
Jack Hobbs hit a century of centuries after passing 40
Somerset’s oldest player to achieve the double of 1000 runs and 100 wickets in a season was W.E. Alley 43 years in 1962.
Oldest player was E. Robson 53 years 73 days in 1923.
Were these men fitter back than or were the standards and level of competition much less body draining?
And is it fair to say that it is easier for a batsmen to have a prolonged career opposed to a bowler?
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And is it fair to say that it is easier for a batsmen to have a prolonged career opposed to a bowler?
Depends on speed of bowling. eddie hemmings, the warwickshire bloke with the pipe and Ironmonger (going well back) examples of spinners who bowled until they nearly dropped
Yes quite right Clive, i can remember Hemmings playing for England.
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Quote – ‘Were these men fitter back than or were the standards and level of competition much less body draining?’
How hard can it be to point a bat at a ball one wonders? And then trot a few yards? I’d always imagined they could keep going until they were collecting the pension without any trouble.
Quote – ‘Were these men fitter back than or were the standards and level of competition much less body draining?’
How hard can it be to point a bat at a ball one wonders? And then trot a few yards? I’d always imagined they could keep going until they were collecting the pension without any trouble.
You should try playing the game in my back garden with my step son, when one of those wind balls hits you in the bullseye without a box on you know it.
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Were these men fitter back than or were the standards and level of competition much less body draining?
Today’s cricketers, like all sportsmen, are much fitter than those of yesteryear, but that comes at a cost: they are less healthy.
Young bodies finely tuned to the limit of physical capability will inevitably be more prone to injury, and given the ever-increasing amount of competition they have to endure will ‘burn out’ at an ever-younger age.
No hard stats to back this up, but it does seem to me that cricketers today suffer injuries much more regularly than in the past. The likes of FS Trueman and JB Statham wheeled away at speed for twenty years without so much as a blistered heel to bother them, and somewhat portly batsmen would "trot a few yards" between the wickets for decades, troubled only by a Woodbine-induced shortness of breath
There’s summat wrong, when the likes of Vaughan and Flintoff suffer such debilitating injuries so young.
Of course the days when ‘you could whistle down a mine shaft and another fast bowler would turn up’ are long gone – today’s twenty-somethings are not the product of the ‘working’ teenager of yesteryear who’s still-maturing skeleton was subjected to a beneficially slow physical hardening
Very much IMHO of course
Nice to see that Worcestershire have announced that their new pavilion will be named after Hick and the best news for the players is that it will be built above flood level.
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Great match tonight in Pro 40 between Lanky and Notts.
Swung back and forth and went down to last ball with Lancs winning by 1 run.
Lancs needed win to have chance of survival and Notts wanted it to take pole postion for title.
Man of Match was Steven Croft of Lancs. Outstanding with bat, ball and in the field. A surefire England player (limited overs) of the future IMO.Sad to see Hick retire. remember him drinking quietly and shyly in the lords tavern when he was about 18
He should be remebered as a fine player rather than a test failure (not the first talent to stutter in that arena). Always wonderful to watch
There’s one line of thought, expounded already on one editorial piece on the BBC’s cricket website, that Hick never recovered fully at international level from having Ray Illingworth get into his head and undermine his confidence from the get-go. Likely?
I presume his retirement at 42 hands over the position of oldest player on the county circuit to someone else now – I think Stuart Law and Andy Caddick (the former one month older) will both turn 40 this autumn, with neither having hinted they’re about to jack it in to the best of my knowledge.
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(graysonscolumn)Law was originally going to retire after this season but as Lancs had such a terrible time he seems not to want to leave it like that and to play on. This is fine by me as he’s still an asset to the club as long as he continues to take a few games off.
Not sure that Lancs will be much better next season though as they seem to be a bit in transition.Hampshire now top of the county championship a great effort by them after a terrible start to the season although i cant see them winning it having played a game more than the chasing pack. It’s extremely close up there but WHO’S GOING TO WIN IT?
Table – Played = Points
Hampshire – 15 = 160
Somerset – 14 = 159
Durham – 14 = 157
Notts – 14 = 156
Kent – 14 = 147
Sussex – 14 = 141
Lancashire – 14 = 135
Yorkshire – 14 = 135
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That could be just the opportunity Tahir needs to establish himself with a county, then, having previously found himself down the spinners’ pecking order at both Yorkshire and most recently Middlesex. At 29 he’s no Spring chicken, mind, so let’s see how he goes on from here.
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Imran Tahir is leaving Hampshire to go and play in South Africa. His first class county championship record for Hants this season was 6 matches, 191.5 overs, 38 maidens, 558 runs conceded, 32 wickets at a cost of 17.43.
Hampshire’s acting manager Giles White said (according to teletext) "He’s done a great job. He’s been the catalyst to all our positive results."
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Its been a remarkable but entertaining Division One and the table looks almost upside down. Both Somerset and Hampshire have done superbly well.
I find myself in the position of cheering on Kent, but I suspect they have left it too late. Two games to go. Could be another thriller.
Hi Andrew, you’ve been away have you moved in with Sponge bob square pants in a pineapple under the sea?
Kent are available at 25’s but generally 16’s only 10’s on betfair. it’s great to be so late into the season with everything still to play for. I’m very proud of Somerset’s season. I also noticed Surrey are 200/1
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Sponge Bob is great isn’t it! I only came across it by mistake this summer and it is by some distance the best thing on television.
I haven’t been away but am currently involved in a three way shouting match with Tiscali, BT and Talk Talk and have been without internet for a month, so am only able to make occasional visits, when using other PCs.
I can’t remember what price I got about Kent but it was right at the start of the season and would have been some way short of 16s, I had written it off and forgotten all about it.
Somerset though would be worthy winners, having confounded many (well, me!). And as for Surrey, there’s desperation and there’s hiring Shoaib. I love to watch him, but as last throws of the dice go, it’s not the best.
Sponge Bob is great isn’t it! I only came across it by mistake this summer and it is by some distance the best thing on television.
I haven’t been away but am currently involved in a three way shouting match with Tiscali, BT and Talk Talk and have been without internet for a month, so am only able to make occasional visits, when using other PCs.
I can’t remember what price I got about Kent but it was right at the start of the season and would have been some way short of 16s, I had written it off and forgotten all about it.
Somerset though would be worthy winners, having confounded many (well, me!). And as for Surrey, there’s desperation and there’s hiring Shoaib. I love to watch him, but as last throws of the dice go, it’s not the best.
Sponge Bob is great i also like the Mr Men on channel5 although it makes Alex my two year old son cry so i haven’t seen it for a while, he’s is into that CBeebies lark.
Notts have to be strong favourites now and i just hope Hampshire can at least draw with them which would give Durham and Somerset a chance of the title if they win their last game, the big problem for Somerset is that they are home to Lancs and the Taunton pitch has not produced many results over the years hence Somerset’s drawn the most games this season.
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