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February 14, 2003 at 10:31 #44410
Selections for 14th Feb.
Bank = 180
Sandown  2.20   Joly Bey WON 4/6 BANK = 187.3
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(Edited by JAR at 3:05 pm on Feb. 14, 2003)
February 14, 2003 at 13:18 #44411John,
I’ve been doing some analysis of past races, trying to pull out some statistics that will point to winners. Under certain circumstances, my early computer program will generate a 70% strike-rate. Unfortunately, there are only about 15 to 20 bets a year, a loss is made over all, and it gets worse in more recent years. I think this is because more statistics are available to the general punter and bookie alike.
For example, if all the tipsters pick a selection, many punters will take notice and the bookies will lower the odds accordingly. The selection may win although this is not guaranteed. From the win to lose ratio, the bookies will set the prices so that us punters will always make a loss.
At the moment, I am trying to look for an angle that is generally overlooked and will lead to profits. It may be a long while coming!
In the meantime, my computer system selects Joly Bey as the winner in your chosen race – although the conditions do not satisfy the 70% strike-rate!
Best of luck, and search for the angle,
Looking For A Winner.
February 14, 2003 at 15:16 #44412Hi LookingforaWinner
Mine also selected Joly Bey – and it won ;)
As you say trouble is you get short odds. So it takes me about 30 bets at a tenner a bet to make just £20. And there is no guarantee that in the long run this won’t be a loss of £20.
It wouldn’t be so bad if my bookmaker was next door but he is almost a mile away.
A system I used once was bet the S or F rated horse closest to the top of the card in handicap races providing it was 4th last time out and had forecast odds of 4/1 or longer.<br>This gave winners at longer odds and made a profit over the few months I used it, but it also had long losing runs.<br>Regards <br>John.<br>:cheesy:
February 14, 2003 at 15:51 #44413John,
I must ask, why don’t you use any of the "on-line" bookmakers?
Regards – Matron<br>:cool:
February 14, 2003 at 21:02 #44414Hi Matron
I do not use on-line bookmakers, not for any strong reason.<br>I simply don’t like betting with the same bookmaker who is at liberty to close a winning account if he wishes.<br>I prefer to use several bookmakers.<br>Although the nearest is over a mile away, there are in fact six of these bookmakers in a sort of arc.
Also-<br>I like to see the winnings – as cash – in my own sweaty little hand after a bet.<br>It’s more satisfying somehow.
An ideal betting method for me would be something like the method in P.Kilgallons book "How to beat the Handicapper".  This consist of only 40 bets per year and<br>it picks 50% winners at odds such as 3/1, 5/1, 7/2, 7/1, 8/1 etc.
I’ve read the book and I still don’t know how he does it!<br>I’ve tried to do it papertrading and then gone broke!
I simply do not put cash down for real unless a system first makes money for me, papertrading only.<br>So I return to backing selected favourites the only method that works for me.
Regards<br>John<br>:)
(Edited by JAR at 9:13 pm on Feb. 14, 2003)
February 15, 2003 at 10:31 #44415Selections for Feb 15 th
Bank = 187.3
Ascot  3.45   Tiutchev        Won 15/8
Wincanton  4.25  Bal de nuit   Lost
                            Bank = 196
Feb 17 th –  no selection.
Selections for 18 Feb
Southwell  3.10    MiOdds  –  Won 4/5
Folkstone  2.10    Joey Tribbiani – race abandoned
                 Bank = 204
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February 19, 2003 at 10:57 #44416Feb 19 th
Bank b/f   =  204
Doncaster 3.25     Iris Royal – meeting abandoned.
Lingfield  4.20   Easter Ogil – Won 10/11 ÂÂÂ
Bank = 213
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February 19, 2003 at 20:37 #44417To All Computer Betters.
If anyone would like,I could make you a computer program for your systems.Just tell me what your program is based on.Or I could Post the program on the Forum.
Any Takers.
First come first served.
Winalot.
February 20, 2003 at 11:08 #44418Hi william winalot
Thank you for the offer, but no thanks.  I’ve written my own computer progam.
I am quite capable of programming in Pascal, Delphi, Visual Basic or JavaScript.
Today’s Selection
20 th Feb
Huntingdon 2.05   Double Honour – (RACE ABANDONED)
<br>21 Feb
Kempton  2.55  Deanos Beano     Won evens<br>Kempton  3.25  Stormez          Won  2/9<br>Wolves   3.35  Urban Myth        Lost<br>Warwick  4.15  Quetal           Race abandoned.
                      Bank = 215
<br>Selections for Feb 22 nd
Lingfield   1.40  Dusty Dazzler   lost
Kempton 3.35   Il Cavalier      lost
Huntingdon  4.15  Isio        Won 4/11
                     Bank = 198.8
Cheers
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February 24, 2003 at 10:18 #44419Selections for Feb 24 th           Bank = 198.8
Plumpton  2.15  Dancing Bay     Won 10/11<br>Plumpton  2.45  Indalo          Won 2/5
Wolv      4.15  Bang in tune     Lost<br>                              Bank = 202.2
Feb 25 th
Leics   2.15 Palarshan      Won  8/13<br>Leics   3.15 Rufius         Lost<br>Leics   3.45 Irish Hussar    Won  1/3<br>Ling   4.05 Lady Pahia     Lost<br>Ling   4.35 Love’s Design  Lost
                            Bank = 181.6
   Feb 26th selections.<br>Wetherby    2.05  Jungle Jinks     Won 4/7<br>Wetherby   4.25 Freds in theKnow  Won 3/1
Lingfield     2.55 Lundy’s Lane     Won 2/5<br>Chepstow    1.55 Shardam        Won 6/5
                           Bank 238.48
Feb 27 Selection
      2.05  Southwell  Paradise Eve  Won 2/5<br>                          <br>                           Bank = 242.48<br>    <br>Feb 28 the Selection<br>      3.05  Doncaster     Night Fighter Won 7/4
Bank = 259.98
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(Edited by JAR at 3:26 pm on Feb. 28, 2003)
February 28, 2003 at 12:25 #44420Hello Jar.
Very well done.
£42.48 with a Starting Bank of £200.00 is a great achievement.
Keep up the good work
I will follow with great interest.
Even if a profit of only £1.00 is made.That would be enough to make an income.As long that £1.00 profit can be maintained.
Again great stuff.
Winalot.
February 28, 2003 at 15:33 #44421Thanks William<br>Early days yet, it all depends on the long run.:) <br>Regards <br>John
February 28, 2003 at 20:09 #44422Hi John,
Your system is doing well, I used to use *******, *******, *******, and ****** as well but I always used *********** as a final check.
:laugh::laugh:
I reckon this system will be a cracker when you’ve got it going.
I’ve noted that you’re betting to level stakes, would you consider a staking plan ??
Keep going, Dave.
March 1, 2003 at 10:42 #44423(Edited by JAR at 9:58 am on May 7, 2003)
March 2, 2003 at 01:23 #44424Hello Jar.
<br>Brilliant Return on Investment
Keep up the good work.
Excellent.
If it’s not broken,don’t try to fix it.
Winalot.
March 2, 2003 at 10:32 #44425Thanks for that John … will try and pay more attention in the future. Would never bet to level stakes myself keep going !!!
Dave.
March 3, 2003 at 09:50 #44426(Edited by JAR at 9:56 am on May 7, 2003)
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