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Hopefully Darcheville nicks a goal against the run of play on the 70th minute, and they shut up shop completely!!!!!!!!
Well you got it half right.
Zenit St. Petersburg thoroughly deserved to win.
11/10 your candy, as they say.
Thankfully I availed myself.
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After Greece in Euro 2004, Mourinho’s feats with Porto
Funny you should mention that, I fully believe that those two events coming so soon after one another (must only have been a month) completely ruined football as a spectacle. It showed everyone else how any bunch of players with little else other than discipline and organisation (often instilled by a shrewd and talented coach like you say) could succeed- those two teams you mentioned having only one very good player between them in Deco.
Nothing I saw tonight changed that view, although no question the best footballing side won.
Opening the beer tent at 10am on Wednesday morning (unconfirmed report I must add) must be the most hare-brained idea that I’ve heard in a while. That being said, I doubt the stabbing would have been totally alcohol-fuelled, unless a knife can magically appear in your hand after a dozen tins of Spesh.
When was the last time there was this sort of trouble at a Scotland game? This only goes to further the suspicion of many east coast dwellers that Old Firm fans generally don’t bother with Scotland.
Celtic took over 80,000 to Seville for the Uefa Cup final. There was no trouble. Celtic were awarded by Uefa for being the best supporters in Europe.
I did say that if Rangers lost there would be trouble. Their fans attacked Police in Glasgow too. They have a history of being bad losers. Ok, the giant screens not working in Manchester would have frustrated any clubs fans, but not to the point of rioting.
I also know that there was fighting outside Ibrox prior to the match being shown on giant screens inside the stadium. Among sporadic fighting, two women Rangers fans gave another woman Rangers fan a terrible beating. One of the women even tried to fight one man who tried to rescue the woman being set upon. Unbelievable.
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Its a fair comment to make – the Tartan Army are respected the World over for being such good fans.
This is probably because they always go home early
Pete
I did say that if Rangers lost there would be trouble. Their fans attacked Police in Glasgow too. They have a history of being bad losers. Ok, the giant screens not working in Manchester would have frustrated any clubs fans, but not to the point of rioting.
Indeed not.
The Piccadilly / Oldham Street / Northern Quarter area is one of my favourite places in the whole country – an optimistic, quirky, vibrant few square miles in which I could be found for large chunks of the 1990s and which I always revisit whenever I go up and see the parents. I actually feel a little violated, as well as extremely disappointed, on learning that sections of it have been laid waste by these artless thugs.
Go home, please. And stay there.
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Himself and Grays you both talk one load of shÃte without knowing the facts, it was a glorious occasion yet you two prefer to highlight any trouble that may have occured. The police were out of order in Manchester and they couldn’t handle over 100,000 Rangers fans that is the truth but again those less in the know will believe the press as usual.
The giant screen didn’t work and they couldn’t fix it (yet they can put a man on the moon), so the fans that paid good money to go to Manchester have every tight to be upset, there was bound to be some trouble after that, but if it were those nicey nicey celtic fans they’d have just turned around and said oh well **** happens…lol…yeah right dream on.
it was a fabulous occasion and nothing will tarnish that feeling from me.
As Grasshopper says "no-one likes us we don’t care"
Rumour has it that Manchester’s Town Clock was running an hour behind too, Jim – the ba*stard’s got what they deserved.
… the fans that paid good money to go to Manchester have every tight to be upset, there was bound to be some trouble after that
Why was there "bound to be some trouble after that"
Surely even Rangers fans realised that the screen wasn’t turned off deliberately.
There’s NO justification for causing trouble.
I sorted their clock Grassy, it wasn’t a problem
ofcourse there’s no justification for causing trouble but I say again it was bound to happen as the manchester police didn’t have a clue how big this was going to be, had Fiorentina had made the final they could’ve put up a few park benches and used a portable TV set – it would’ve been easier.
Rangers getting to the final was a shock to Uefa’s system and no-one was prepared for so many fans as we have, well over 100,000 in Manchester, Ibrox full with 10,000 being turned away.
What an occasion, you had to be there to understand it all
Himself and Grays you both talk one load of shÃte without knowing the facts,
The facts, Jim, are that your lot did this….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7402702.stm
….and more besides in the face of no greater provocation – and I don’t dispute it was unfortunate, but hardly the end of the world, all the same – than a screen pinging off. It was also noticeable from the footage on TV this morning that the first bottle hit the screen within, at a conservative estimate, about a second after the picture was lost – long before anyone present could conceivably have established whether or not the screen was fixable – and more followed.
The fans that paid good money to go to Manchester have every tight to be upset, there was bound to be some trouble after that,
Bound to be? Presented with a similar anticlimax, lack of immediate opportunities to go elsewhere, etc., I don’t recall disgruntled racegoers trying to raze Aintree to the floor in the aftermath of the void 1993 Grand National. They were within their rights to press for recompense subsequently, and last night’s disappointment in Piccadilly Gardens entitled Rangers fans to do no more than the same… and certainly not what a small but conspicuous number of them chose to do instead.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Oh my god – as they say, comparing race goers with football fans?
"A small minority of yobs were to blame for the violence which marred the UEFA Cup final in Manchester, according to police and council chiefs"
out of over 100,000 it’s not as bad as some make out, I don’t condone any trouble but some reports are absolutely nonsense.
the final has gone now, move on and highlight the good stuff – the football for those needed pointing in the right direction.
Just cos football fans were involved doesn’t justify violence.
This is why soccer is the only sport in the world where opposing fans HAVE to be segrated. Because violence is seen as acceptable among the sport’s supporters.
At the end of the day, there is absolutely no justification for it.
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