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May 1, 2022 at 17:47 #1596555
Peripatetic, unplaced in the Pretty Polly, is very well named by Cheveley Park.
By Ulysses, the word means wandering. There is a chapter in James Joyce’s modernist masterpiece entitled “Wandering Rocks”.
Continuing the theme, they have a filly named Sylvia Beach, also by Ulysses. Her bookshop “Shakespeare and Company” in Paris was the first publisher of Joyce’s novel.
What clever names, past and present, does TRF like and why?
May 1, 2022 at 18:19 #1596561Firstly, congratulations CAS on getting through Ulysses. If you landed the double by reading Finnegans Wake as well that would be exponentially impressive.
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May 1, 2022 at 18:42 #1596564I have read Finnegans Wake. As someone once said, there is a thin line between genius and madness.
Ulysses is rather easy to read in comparison, with several passages that are very funny. It also has a link to horse racing. Part of the “plot” involves the Ascot Gold Cup of 1904. When Lyons asks Leopold Bloom for a look at the racing page of his paper, Bloom says he can take it because he was about to throw it away. Lyons mishears and thinks he has tipped the horse Throwaway.
Later on, Lenehan enters a pub where Bloom has been drinking. He says Throwaway won at 20/1. The drinkers are convinced Bloom has backed it and become annoyed when he does not stand them a round of drinks. He ends up fleeing from the pub after a biscuit tin is thrown at him.
May 1, 2022 at 19:35 #1596584I always liked Lord Howard de Walden’s names, especially the full brothers Kris, Diesis and Keen. All were by Sharpen Up and out of Doubly Sure.
May 1, 2022 at 19:42 #1596586At Doncaster in 1978 I noticed that Royal Frolic was by Royal Buck out of Forward Miss.
Ever since, I have loved names that have a connection to both sire and dam and despised those that don’t.
Sadly, I seldom see such traditionally-named horses any more.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"May 1, 2022 at 19:53 #1596588A favourite is:
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May 1, 2022 at 20:11 #1596593‘Ever since, I have loved names that have a connection to both sire and dam and despised those that don’t.’
You’d love my Bulldog / Shih Tzu crossbreed then.
May 1, 2022 at 20:34 #1596598Agree, too many versions of Getaway around; I presume it’s financially driven, a young horse might be more valuable if it’s provenance is obvious.
BTW my native village, Rostrevor, gets a mention in Ulysses, and also apparently the inspiration for Narnia.
May 1, 2022 at 20:42 #1596600The 8th Lord Howard De Walden, father of the owner/breeder of Kris, Diesis and Slip Anchor, is mentioned in “Ulysses” several times. His horse Zinfandel was hot favourite for the 1904 Gold Cup at Royal Ascot and backed by several of the characters, only to suffer a shock defeat to Throwaway.
The Rothschild colours of blue jacket and yellow cap, still in use and seen as recently as this afternoon in a maiden race at Salisbury, are mentioned as well.
May 1, 2022 at 20:58 #1596602Who could forget Charlie Mann’s chaser Celibate? By Shy Groom out of Dance Alone.
May 1, 2022 at 21:07 #1596605Warning was well named. By Known Fact out of Slightly Dangerous.
May 1, 2022 at 22:06 #1596610One Over Parr out of Seventh Bride was always one of my favourites.
May 1, 2022 at 22:20 #1596612As mentioned by CAS already, Celibate was very well-named.
Another name I like is that of Celibate’s grandsire, Blushing Groom. He was by Red God out of Runaway Bride.
May 2, 2022 at 01:18 #1596621One Over Parr out of Seventh Bride was always one of my favourites.
That’s a good one.
Cork, is Ulysses any better than Dubliners? That’s the only Joyce I have ever read (had to for English class) and it was the dullest collection of non stories I have ever had the misfortune to read.
May 2, 2022 at 01:21 #1596622” loved names that have a connection to both sire and dam and despised those that don’t.”
Except mindless nonsense like Battleoverdoyen.
May 2, 2022 at 05:33 #1596628One that has stuck in my mind is Caesar Beware, by Daggers Drawn. No connection to the dam’s name though, which was Red Shareef(Marju).
May 2, 2022 at 06:37 #1596630I also think the name of any racehorse should give a clue to it’s bloodline – Nijinsky and Nureyev were clearly from the Northern Dancer bloodline, for example.
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