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    1972 MATA HARI Countess Batthyany blue orange slvs checked cap

    Isinglass,

    I have always understood Battyany’s French sillks to be as yoou state but with a black cap. The check cap was carried in England by the likes of Pia.

    I have a jpeg of the 1972 Arc racecard and San Sans colours are "bleue, m orange, t noire"

    Cheers

    #357652
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    Isinglass, you are a legend. Ivanjica, you are correct. many British racecards I have from the 70’s depicts Countess Bathyany with a check cap (Roberto’s Derby win in 73), but officially on France Galop her colours were Blue, Orange sleeves, Black cap. These colours were also registered with Prince Gustav Batthyany in the late 1800’s who won an Epsom Derby. Isinglass, Prince Aly Khan’s silks were Green, Red Sash, Green Cap. With thanks
    Digressing. I found this website a while ago but it gave me a great insight into racing from a bygone era.

    http://www.horseracinghistory.co.uk/hrh … viewBrowse

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    I found this race on my files, the Washington DC International. It was one of the best races in the world, but when the Breeders Cup started it basically went down hill and was cancelled in the 1990’s. It was cancelled after 1994.

    WASHINGTON DC INTERNATIONAL (2400m)

    1952 WILWYN (Robert C. Boucher)
    GREEN, OLD GOLD HOOPED SLEEVES, HOOPED CAP

    1953 WORDEN (Ralph B. Strassburger)
    YELLOW, LIGHT BLUE ST. ANDREWS CROSS, DARK BLUE SLEEVES, YELLOW CAP

    1954 FISHERMAN (C.V. Whitney)
    ETON BLUE, BROWN CAP

    1957 MAHAN (Hasty House Farm)
    BLUE, SILVER SASH, YELLOW ‘HH’, SILVER SLEEVES, BLUE CAP

    1958 SAILOR’S GUIDE (AUST) (Jaclyn Stable)
    WHITE, ROYAL BLUE COLLAR and SHOULDER STRAPS, BLUE SLEEVES, WHITE DOTS, BLUE and WHITE CAP

    1959 BALD EAGLE (Cain Hoy Stable)
    BLUE and WHITE BLOCKS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAP

    1960 BALD EAGLE (Cain Hoy Stable)
    BLUE and WHITE BLOCKS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAP

    1961 T.V. LARK (Preston W. Madden)
    CHERRY, WHITE BARS on SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1962 MATCH II (Francois Dupre)
    GREY, PINK CAP

    1963 MONGO (Montpelier Stable)
    FRENCH BLUE, OLD ROSE and SILVER CROSS SASHES, FRENCH BLUE CAP

    1964 KELSO (Bohemia Stable)
    GREY, YELLOW BALL, COLLAR, CUFFS and CAP

    1965 DIATOME (Guy de Rothschild)
    DARK BLUE, YELLOW CAP

    1966 BEHISTOUN (Alex Weisweiller)
    MAROON, MAROON CAP

    1967 FORT MARCY (Rokeby Stable)
    DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP

    1968 SIR IVOR (Raymond R. Guest)
    CHOCOLATE and LIGHT BLUE HOOPS, LIGHT BLUE CAP

    1969 KARABAS (Benjamin Guinness aka Lord Iveagh)
    TERRA-COTTA, BLACK SEAMS, COLLAR and CUFFS, QUARTERED CAP

    1970 FORT MARCY (Rokeby Stable)
    DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP

    1971 RUN THE GAUNTLET (Rokeby Stable)
    DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP

    1972 DROLL ROLL (John M. Schiff)
    PURPLE, WHITE HOOP, PURPLE SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1973 DAHLIA (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
    LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1974 ADMETUS (Sir Michael Sobell)
    PALE BLUE, YELLOW and WHITE CHECK CAP

    1975 NOBILLIARY (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
    LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1976 YOUTH (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
    LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1977 JOHNNY D (Dana S. Bray)
    WHITE, TWO BLUE HOOPS, BLUE DIAMONDS ON SLEEVES, BLUE and WHITE CAP

    1978 MAC DIARMIDA (Jerome M. Torsney)
    PURPLE AND WHITE DIAMONDS, PURPLE AND WHITE HALVED SLEEVES, PURPLE CAP

    1979 BOWL GAME (Greentree Stable)
    PINK, BLACK STRIPES on SLEEVES, BLACK CAP

    1980 ARGUMENT (Bruce NcNall)
    DARK BLUE and GREY DIAMONDS, DARK BLUE SLEEVES and CAP

    1981 PROVIDENTIAL (Serge Fradkoff)
    LIGHT BLUE, ROYAL BLUE CHEVRON, ROYAL BLUE STRIPES on SLEEVES and CAP

    1982 APRIL RUN (Diana M. Firestone)
    GREEN, WHITE DIAMOND FRAME, DIAMONDS on SLEEVES, GREEN CAP

    1983 ALL ALONG (Daniel Wildenstein)
    ROYAL BLUE, LIGHT BLUE CAP

    1984 SEATTLE SONG (Stavros Niarchos)
    DARK BLUE, LIGHT BLUE CROSS SASHES, STRIPED SLEEVES, WHITE CAP

    1985 VANLANDINGHAM (Loblolly Stable)
    YELLOW, CHOCOLATE DIAGONAL QUARTERS, YELLOW SLEEVES, BROWN HOOP

    1986 LIEUTENANT’S LARK (Lowell T. Stevens)
    ORANGE, TURQUOISE CROSS SASHES, TURQUOISE BARS on SLEEVES, ORANGE CAP

    1987 LE GLORIEUX (Mrs Werner Wolf)
    LIGHT BLUE, ORANGE SLEEVES and CAP

    1988 SUNSHINE FOREVER (Darby Dan Farm)
    FAWN BROWN SLEEVES, FAWN CAP, BROWN VISOR

    1991 LEARIVA (Thierry Van Zuylen)
    RED, WHITE CHEVRONS, WHITE SLEEVES, QUARTERED CAP

    1992 ZOMAN (Prince Fahd Salman)
    DARK GREEN, DARK GREEN CAP

    1994 PARADISE CREEK (Masayuki Nishiyama)
    YELLOW, PURPLE HOOPS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAP

    #357691
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    Thanks for the updates – appreciated.

    I think you’ve thrown the de Rivaud colours at me previously – the only reason I didn’t take it off my "to find" list was because it looks like there may have been three de Rivaud brothers – may have shared silks which would be handy !

    Re Prince Aly Khan , I’ve seen the green , red sash before – probably on the initial French postings you made Slewman. What may be confusing me is when Petite Etoile won the 1959 Oaks I think the owner was given as Prince Aly & Lester wore the chocolate & green hoops. Another variation between countries do you reckon ?

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    I’m not sure if I have mentioned this in a previous posting but in Britain and Ireland back in ‘the old days’ only one owner was mentioned in the race card. In Petite Etoile’s case she was officially owned by H.H. The Aga Khan and Prince Aly Khan (father and son) but the race card stated she was owned by Prince Aly Khan but raced in his father’s silks (Green and chocolate hoops).

    #357812
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    Isinglass, sorry I may have put you away.

    You are right, there were multiple de Rivauds.

    The owner of Motrico (Vte Max de Rivaud) did have the jacket as stated but his cap was white.

    However these silks appear to have been registered in 1940.

    In 1930 his silks were Blanche, pois et m. bleus, t. blanche – so white, blue spots and sleeves and cap.

    However my Longchamp magazine from 1991 does depict Motrico’s jockey in a caricature for 1932 in the Wite/Red version with a white cap.

    I wonder if the blue ones were his "second colours"?

    #357904
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    Hi folks , thanks for the info – have just seen a picture of an old painting of 1933 Prix Reiset on google – white red spots slvs & cap – haven’t found that it was a Rivaud horse so maybe forced to be blue and white until a later date (were they waiting for someone to die maybe ? nice thought ! )

    Slewman – 1956 Washington International Master Boing Andre Lombard orange white x belts ( french colours anyway ) got them when finding him for 1946 French 2000 Pactole.

    also one that was missing earlier – 1963 French 1000 Altissima Mme N Tuan red white cross of lorraine & slve red cap.

    will post French 2000 & Royal Oak then that’s me done unless we get tempted by something else ?!?

    I.

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    French 2000 Guineas – these supplement Slewman’s posting on Page 13 of the thread.

    2011 TIN HORSE Marquessa de Moratalla red distinguishing white sash pale green cap

    1974 MOULINES J Kashiyama black light blue hooped slvs light blue cap

    1973 KALAMOUN H.H. Aga Khan green red epaulettes

    1972 RIVERMAN Mme Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap

    1971 ZUG WR Hawn cerise & white stripes black cap

    1970 CARO Countess Batthyany blue orange slvs black cap

    1969 DON II M. D Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    1968 ZEDDAAN H.H. Aga Khan green red epaulettes

    1967 BLUE TOM Mme PAB Widener red & white stripes black cap

    1966 SOLEIL Baron G de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1965 CAMBREMONT J Bouchara yellow grey armlets & cap

    1964 NEPTUNUS Mme J Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap

    1963 RELKO F Dupre grey pink cap

    1962 ADAMASTOR Mme A Magnus blue white seams & cap

    1961 RIGHT ROYAL V Mme J Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap

    1960 MINCIO Martin Lehmann pink purple stars

    1959 THYMUS Mme A Plesch light blue red spots

    1958 PRES DE FEU J Schneider HELP

    1957 TYRONE J Puerari white dark green slvs qtd cap

    1956 BUISSON ARDENT H.H. Aga Khan chocolate & green hoops chocolate cap

    1955 KLAIRON M Fabiani white orange cap

    1954 COTE D’OR II

    1953 COBALT Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1952 GUERSANT Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1951 FREE MAN Jean Stern white light blue stars black cap

    1950 TANTIEME F Dupre grey pink cap

    1949 AMOUR DRAKE Leon Volterra white red hoops on body

    1948 RIGOLO Henry Lecerf french grey blue slvs & cap

    1947 TOURMENT Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body

    1946 PACTOLE Andre Lombard orange white X belts

    1945 MISTRAL Leon Volterra white red hoops on body

    1944 PRINCE BIO Mme Celestine Herbline brown green spots , slvs & cap

    1943 DOGAT Jean Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap

    1942 HEXTON Robert Debray black orange hoop on body

    1941 PANIPAT

    1940 DJEBEL Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1939 MAC KANN

    1938 GASPILLAGE Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap

    1937 DRAP D’OR Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap

    1936 DAVOUT M. Vagliano HELP

    1935 KANT Georges Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    1934 BRANTOME Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1933 RODOSTO Princess de Lucinge orange and yellow hoops orange slvs yellow cap

    1932 LE BECAU

    1931 INDUS Edward Esmond white blue slvs yellow cap

    1930 XANDOVER Andre Schwob white red x belts & cap

    1929 VATOUT Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel

    1928 DARK LANTERN II Boyd Davis HELP

    1927 FITERARI Paul Moulines HELP

    1926 ASTERUS Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1925 FARAWAY Paul Moulines HELP

    1924 TAPIN EE Ambatielos light blue white stars & cap

    1923 SIR GALLAHAD III Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel

    1922 MONT BLANC Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1921 LE TRAQUET Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel

    1920 PENDENNIS A K. Macomber red & white stripes red slvs white cap

    1919 MCKINLEY William K Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap

    1918 NO RACE
    1917 NO RACE
    1916 NO RACE
    1915 NO RACE

    1914 LISTMAN Léon Olry-Roederer HELP

    1913 DAGOR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1912 DE VIRIS Alexandre Aumont white green cap

    1911 LORD BORGOYNE Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1910 SIFFLET Baron Maurice de Rothschild dark blue yellow braid seams & cap

    1909 VERDUN Baron Maurice de Rothschild dark blue yellow braid seams & cap

    1908 MONITOR Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1907 OUADI HALFA Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1906 EIDER Duc de Gramont red yellow hoops on body

    1905 VAL D’OR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1904 GOUVERNANT Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1903 VINICIUS Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1902 RETZ Camille Blanc orange blue cap

    1901 CHERI Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap

    1900 GOVERNOR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1899 PERTH II Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap

    1898 RODILARD Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap

    1897 INDIAN CHIEF Henri Say HELP

    1896 ARREAU Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1895 LAUNAY Henri Say HELP

    1894 BEAUJOLAIS Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1893 LE NICHAM II Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1892 FRA ANGELICO Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1891 LE HARDY Camille Blanc orange blue cap

    1890 HEAUME Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1889 PHLEGETHON Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1888 REYEZUELO Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1887 BRIO Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1886 GAMIN Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1885 XAINTRAILLES Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1884 ARCHIDUC Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap

    1883 REGAIN Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap

    1882 BARBE BLEUE Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1881 PROMETHEE Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1880 LE DESTRIER Auguste Staub pink black cap

    1879 ZUT Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1878 CLEMENTINE Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1877 FONTAINEBLEAU Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1876 ENGUERRANDE Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1875 SAINT CYR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1874 NOVATEUR Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap

    1873 SIRE Major Fridolin white light blue cap

    1872 REVIGNY Paul Aumont white green cap

    1871 NO RACE

    1870 VALOIS Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1869 CONSUL Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1868 GOUVERNAIL 12th Duke of Hamilton cerise french grey slvs & cap

    1867 NICOLET

    1866 PUEBLA Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1865 GONTRAN Major Fridolin white light blue cap

    1864 BARONELLA Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1863 STENTOR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1862 STRADELLA Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1861 ISABELLA Baron Leon Niviere white light blue cap

    1860 GUSTAVE Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1859 BAKALOUM Hippolyte Mosselman green orange cap

    1858 BROCOLI Count de Roederer blue & yellow stripes yellow cap

    1857 FLORIN Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1856 NAT C LeClercq green red cap

    1855 MONARQUE Alexandre Aumont white green cap

    1854 NANCY Mr Martinson dark green black cap

    1853 MOUSTIQUE Count de Hedouville white black cap

    1852 BOUNTY Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1851 FIRST BORN M. Latache de Fay blue white cap

    1850 SAINT GERMAIN Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1849 EXPERIENCE Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1848 GAMBETTI Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1847 TRONQUETTE Celestin de Pontalba HELP

    1846 PHILIP SHAH Celestin de Pontalba HELP

    1845 COMMODOR NAPIER Prince Marc de Beauvau red

    1844 NO RACE
    1843 NO RACE

    1842 ANNETTA Baron James de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1841 FIAMMETTA Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1840 GIGES Duc d’Orleans red blue cap

    cheers
    I.

    #357916
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    French St Leger / Prix Royal Oak (dead heat 1990)

    2010 GENTOO Serge Tripier-Mondancin red black slvs & cap

    2009 ASK Patrick J. Fahey blue green slvs red cap

    2008 YEATS Magnier / Nagle dark blue

    2007 ALLEGRETTO Cheveley Park Stud red white sash blue cap

    2006 MONTARE George Strawbridge white green hoop on body

    2005 ALCAZAR Repard / Melrose et al. dark green yellow hoop & armlets check cap

    2004 WESTERNER Ecurie Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    2003 WESTERNER Ecurie Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    2002 MR DINOS Constantine Shiacolas yellow mauve spots on body & cap

    2001 VINNIE ROE Sheridan / Balzarini dark blue yellow stars on body halved slvs yellow cap

    2000 AMILYNX Jean-Luc Lagardère grey pink cap

    1999 AMILYNX Jean-Luc Lagardère grey pink cap

    1998 TIRAAZ HH Aga Khan IV green red epaulettes

    1997 EBADIYLA HH Aga Khan IV green red epaulettes

    1996 RED ROSES STORY Corine Barande-Barbe blue light blue chevrons on slvs light blue cap

    1995 SUNSHACK Khalid Abdullah green pink epaulettes and cap white slvs

    1994 MOONAX Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap

    1993 RAINTRAP Khalid Abdullah green pink epaulettes and cap white slvs

    1992 ASSESSOR Bjorn E. Nielsen black yellow cap

    1991 TURGEON George Strawbridge white green hoop on body

    1990 BRAASHEE Maktoum Al Maktoum royal blue white chevron light blue cap

    1990 INDIAN QUEEN Sir Gordon Brunton orange maroon hoop & armlets black & orange qtd cap

    1989 TOP SUNRISE Charles E. Schmidt HELP

    1988 STAR LIFT Daniel Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    1987 ROYAL GAIT Manuel Pereira-Arias green & light blue stripes green slvs & cap

    1986 EL CUITE Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap

    1985 MERSEY Daniel Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    1984 AGENT DOUBLE Jacques Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap

    1983 OLD COUNTRY Mrs O. Abegg red & white check white slvs & cap

    1982 DENEL Mrs Salomon Nathan green light green stripe & cap

    1981 ARDROSS Charles St. George black white chevron hoop & cap

    1980 GOLD RIVER Jacques Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap

    1979 NINISKI Lady Beaverbrook brown green x belts & cap

    1978 BRAVE JOHNNY Mireille Darc HELP

    1977 REX MAGNA Mrs Jean Couturié black & white diamonds white slvs black cap

    1976 EXCELLER Nelson Bunker Hunt green & light green check light green slvs white cap

    1975 HENRI LE BALAFRE C. Puerari white dark green slvs qtd cap

    1974 BUSIRIS Nelson Bunker Hunt green & light green check light green slvs white cap

    1973 LADY BERRY Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1972 PLEBEN Baron de Redé orange white slvs black cap

    1971 BOURBON Germaine Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap

    1970 SASSAFRAS Arpad Plesch light blue red spots

    1969 LE CHOUAN Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body

    1968 DHAUDEVI Mme G Courtois orange yellow slvs black cap

    1967 SAMOS III Comtesse M Batthyany blue orange slvs black cap

    1966 VASCO DE GAMA M Fabiani white orange cap

    1965 RELIANCE Francoise Dupre grey pink cap

    1964 BARBIERI Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1963 RELKO Francoise Dupre grey pink cap

    1962 SICILIAN PRINCE G Len HELP

    1961 MATCH Francoise Dupre grey pink cap

    1960 PUISSANT CHEF H Aubert black red slvs yellow cap

    1959 VAMOUR Mme L Volterra white red hoops on body

    1958 WALLABY Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body

    1957 SCOT Mme Cinco Del Duca blue white cross of lorraine slvs & cap

    1956 ARABIAN R Beaumonte green white stripe & slvs qtd cap

    1955 MACIP Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1954 SICA BOY Mme J Cochery green white slvs & cap green armlets

    1953 BUISSON D’OR Georges Wildenstein blue light blue cap

    1952 FEU DU DIABLE P Duboscq red white seams red cap

    1951 STYMPHALE Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1950 PAN E Constant white black hoop & armlets

    1949 CIEL ETOILE Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap

    1948 SPOONEY Comte R de Rivaud white red spots & slvs white cap

    1947 TOURMENT Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body

    1946 SOUVERAIN F R Schmitt white dark blue star & cap

    1945 CARACALLA Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1944 SAMARITAIN Robert Debray black orange hoop on body

    1943 VERSO II Count Hubert de Chambure white blue cap

    1942 TIFINAR Marcel Boussac orange grey cap

    1941 LE PACHA Philippe Gund white green hoop on body

    1940 NO RACE
    1939 NO RACE

    1938 ÉCLAIR AU CHOCOLAT Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1937 VICTRIX JE Widener red & white stripes black cap

    1936 FANTASTIC Jean Stern white light blue stars black cap

    1935 BOKBUL Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1934 BRANTOME Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1933 JUMBO J-D Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel

    1932 LAEKEN Marquis de Llano HELP

    1931 DEIRI Alexandre Aumont white green cap

    1930 TAICOUN James Hennessy sea green orange sash

    1929 CALANDRIA Edouard Martinez de Hoz yellow white slvs black cap

    1928 CACAO Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1927 FITERARI Paul Moulines HELP

    1926 BIRIBI Simon Guthmann white brown slvs & cap

    1925 PRIORI Gérard de Chavagnac white black seams & cap

    1924 UGANDA Edouard Kann light blue black cap

    1923 FILIBERT DE SAVOIE Cesare Ranucci dark green black cap

    1922 KEROR Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1921 KSAR Mrs Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1920 EMBRY Gustave Wattinne cerise light blue cap

    1919 STEARINE Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1918 NO RACE
    1917 NO RACE
    1916 NO RACE
    1915 NO RACE
    1914 NO RACE

    1913 BRULEUR Evremond de Saint-Alary maroon and yellow stripes

    1912 GORGORITO MJ San-Miguel HELP

    1911 COMBOURG Frank Jay Gould HELP

    1910 REINHART William K. Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap

    1909 AVEU Alexandre Aumont white green cap

    1908 MEDEAH Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1907 ANEMONE II Edmond Veil-Picard HELP

    1906 MAINTENON William K. Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap

    1905 CLYDE Edmond Veil-Picard HELP

    1904 MACDONALD II Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap

    1903 TARQUATO TASSO

    1902 FER Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1901 JACOBITE Jacques de Brémond cerise white hooped slvs white cap

    1900 IVOIRE Jacques de Brémond cerise white hooped slvs white cap

    1899 PERTH Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap

    1898 LE ROI SOLEIL Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1897 CHAMBERTIN Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap

    1896 CHAMPAUBERT Adolphe Abeille HELP

    1895 BOMBON Albert Menier HELP

    1894 GOUVERNAIL Edmond Blanc orange blue cap

    1893 RAMLEH Achille Fould red

    1892 CHENE ROYAL Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1891 BERENGER Henri Say HELP

    1890 ALICANTE Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1889 POURTANT Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1888 GALAOR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap

    1887 BAVARDE Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1886 GAMIN Michel Ephrussi dark blue

    1885 ESCARBOUCLE Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1884 ARCHIDUC Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap

    1883 STOCKHOLM Auguste Staub pink black cap

    1882 CLIO Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap
    1881 PERPLEXITE Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1880 BEAUMINET Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap

    1879 ZUT Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1878 INVAL Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1877 JONGLEUR Comte Gustave de Juigné red & orange hoops black cap

    1876 KILT Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap

    1875 PERPLEX Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap

    1874 MIGNONETTE Edouard Fould yellow & black hoops black cap

    1873 BOIARD Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap

    1872 BARBILLON 12th Duke of Hamilton cerise french grey slvs & cap

    1871 NO RACE
    1870 NO RACE

    1869 CLOTHO Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap

    1868 NELUSCO Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1867 PATRICIEN Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap

    1866 ETOILE FILANTE H Lunel light blue

    1865 GLADIATEUR Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1864 FILLE DE L’AIR Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    1863 LA TOUCQUES Alexander Montgomery tartan yellow slvs & cap

    1862 SOUVENIR M. Robin red blue cap

    1861 PALESTRO Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap

    phew !!

    #358053
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    Isinglass, a true labour lof love, many thanks.

    Thought the other day of the dramatic deviations in silk pattern descriptions in English and US racing. I came up with these:

    British: Chevron
    US: Triangular panel, V sash

    British: Diabolo
    US: Triangular quarters

    British: Checks
    US: Blocks

    British: Disc
    US: Ball

    British: Cross belts
    US: Cross sashes

    British: Armlets
    US: Hoop on sleeves, band on sleeves

    British: Hoop
    US: Belt, Hoop

    British: Spots
    US: Dots

    British: Stripe
    US: Panel

    #358056
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    The inconsistency in American silks continues to puzzle me!

    I was checking out the colours of Midnight Interlude, winner of this years Santa Anita Derby.

    If you look at the silks on Racing Post and Horseracingnation they are Cerise/Pink, Light Green "Z", Light Green Spots on sleeves, Quartered Cap:

    http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_ … _id=122655

    http://www.horseracingnation.com/horse/ … _Interlude

    However photographic evidence shows that at Santa Anita there was no "Z" on the front of the jacket. There were light green spots, bit also turquoise cuffs, and the cap was yellow cerise and green quarters, finished off with a green pom pom!!

    http://jmnandersonarchives.blogspot.com … rsons.html

    http://newfinmysoup.blogspot.com/2011/0 … roses.html

    Also, Slewman, am I right in thinking that for the Washington DC International the three Bunker Hunt winners wore a white cap in your list because they were trained in Europe as opposed to the Green Cap worn, for instance, by Exceller in the 1978 JCGP when he was trained in America by Charlie Wittingham?

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    The Arnold Zetcher silks for Midnight Interlude is definately dots on front and a chartreuse Z on back, also cuffs on the sleeves seem to be teal with three colours (pink, chartreuse and teal) on a quartered-type cap. Although the description of the silks in race programs are Pink, Chartreuse ‘Z’, Chartreuse dots on sleeves, Pink and Chartreuse cap. I would say a fair description of them would be PINK, CHARTREUSE DOTS ON FRONT, CHARTREUSE ‘Z’ ON BACK, CHARTREUSE DOTS ON SLEEVES, PINK, CHARTREUSE AND TEAL CAP.

    Nelson Bunker Hunt’s three winners were all trained in France by Maurice Zilber and have three of the racecards (Youth, Nobiliary and Dahlia carrying a white cap).

    Cheers
    :D

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    Thanks Slew,

    I love the idea someone is able to include the colour of a Liqueur in their silks in the States!

    Going back to your different terminology between US and UK colours, I noticed a card with the legendary Calumet colours on them the other day.

    They refer to "blue bars" on the sleeves.

    I also notice the Glen Riddle amd Harbour View Farm ones did this too. Whereas on the Allertons UK site they refer to "2 Hoops".

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    Bars on sleeves usually means two hoops, ala affirmed and alydar but the term bars in the 20’s 30s 40s and 50’s also included hoops on sleeves, another terminology. (i left that one out of my list three posts earlier).

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    Somewhat topically I thought I would look at my Coronation Cup Gaps.

    I think I may have covered some before so apologies, but any help as ever is greatly appreciated:

    1903 – Valanza – E Heinemann
    1907/8 – The White Knight – T Y L Kirkwood
    1910 – St Martin – L Winans
    1923 – Condover – Mrs A Bendir
    1949 – Beau Sabreur – A B Macnaughton
    1953 – Zucchero – G Rolls

    Cheers

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    ENJOY DERBY DAY, I KNOW I WILL!!

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    1923 – Condover – Mrs A Bendir LILAC, SALMON slvs, collar and cap (RUFFS 1948)

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