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May 28, 2011 at 11:24 #357613
1972 MATA HARI Countess Batthyany blue orange slvs checked cap
Isinglass,
I have always understood Battyany’s French sillks to be as yoou state but with a black cap. The check cap was carried in England by the likes of Pia.
I have a jpeg of the 1972 Arc racecard and San Sans colours are "bleue, m orange, t noire"
Cheers
May 28, 2011 at 15:05 #357652Isinglass, you are a legend. Ivanjica, you are correct. many British racecards I have from the 70’s depicts Countess Bathyany with a check cap (Roberto’s Derby win in 73), but officially on France Galop her colours were Blue, Orange sleeves, Black cap. These colours were also registered with Prince Gustav Batthyany in the late 1800’s who won an Epsom Derby. Isinglass, Prince Aly Khan’s silks were Green, Red Sash, Green Cap. With thanks
Digressing. I found this website a while ago but it gave me a great insight into racing from a bygone era.May 28, 2011 at 15:19 #357653I found this race on my files, the Washington DC International. It was one of the best races in the world, but when the Breeders Cup started it basically went down hill and was cancelled in the 1990’s. It was cancelled after 1994.
WASHINGTON DC INTERNATIONAL (2400m)
1952 WILWYN (Robert C. Boucher)
GREEN, OLD GOLD HOOPED SLEEVES, HOOPED CAP1953 WORDEN (Ralph B. Strassburger)
YELLOW, LIGHT BLUE ST. ANDREWS CROSS, DARK BLUE SLEEVES, YELLOW CAP1954 FISHERMAN (C.V. Whitney)
ETON BLUE, BROWN CAP1957 MAHAN (Hasty House Farm)
BLUE, SILVER SASH, YELLOW ‘HH’, SILVER SLEEVES, BLUE CAP1958 SAILOR’S GUIDE (AUST) (Jaclyn Stable)
WHITE, ROYAL BLUE COLLAR and SHOULDER STRAPS, BLUE SLEEVES, WHITE DOTS, BLUE and WHITE CAP1959 BALD EAGLE (Cain Hoy Stable)
BLUE and WHITE BLOCKS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAP1960 BALD EAGLE (Cain Hoy Stable)
BLUE and WHITE BLOCKS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAP1961 T.V. LARK (Preston W. Madden)
CHERRY, WHITE BARS on SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1962 MATCH II (Francois Dupre)
GREY, PINK CAP1963 MONGO (Montpelier Stable)
FRENCH BLUE, OLD ROSE and SILVER CROSS SASHES, FRENCH BLUE CAP1964 KELSO (Bohemia Stable)
GREY, YELLOW BALL, COLLAR, CUFFS and CAP1965 DIATOME (Guy de Rothschild)
DARK BLUE, YELLOW CAP1966 BEHISTOUN (Alex Weisweiller)
MAROON, MAROON CAP1967 FORT MARCY (Rokeby Stable)
DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP1968 SIR IVOR (Raymond R. Guest)
CHOCOLATE and LIGHT BLUE HOOPS, LIGHT BLUE CAP1969 KARABAS (Benjamin Guinness aka Lord Iveagh)
TERRA-COTTA, BLACK SEAMS, COLLAR and CUFFS, QUARTERED CAP1970 FORT MARCY (Rokeby Stable)
DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP1971 RUN THE GAUNTLET (Rokeby Stable)
DARK GREY, YELLOW BRAIDS, SLEEVES and CAP1972 DROLL ROLL (John M. Schiff)
PURPLE, WHITE HOOP, PURPLE SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1973 DAHLIA (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1974 ADMETUS (Sir Michael Sobell)
PALE BLUE, YELLOW and WHITE CHECK CAP1975 NOBILLIARY (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1976 YOUTH (Nelson Bunker Hunt)
LIGHT and DARK GREEN CHECKS, LIGHT GREEN SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1977 JOHNNY D (Dana S. Bray)
WHITE, TWO BLUE HOOPS, BLUE DIAMONDS ON SLEEVES, BLUE and WHITE CAP1978 MAC DIARMIDA (Jerome M. Torsney)
PURPLE AND WHITE DIAMONDS, PURPLE AND WHITE HALVED SLEEVES, PURPLE CAP1979 BOWL GAME (Greentree Stable)
PINK, BLACK STRIPES on SLEEVES, BLACK CAP1980 ARGUMENT (Bruce NcNall)
DARK BLUE and GREY DIAMONDS, DARK BLUE SLEEVES and CAP1981 PROVIDENTIAL (Serge Fradkoff)
LIGHT BLUE, ROYAL BLUE CHEVRON, ROYAL BLUE STRIPES on SLEEVES and CAP1982 APRIL RUN (Diana M. Firestone)
GREEN, WHITE DIAMOND FRAME, DIAMONDS on SLEEVES, GREEN CAP1983 ALL ALONG (Daniel Wildenstein)
ROYAL BLUE, LIGHT BLUE CAP1984 SEATTLE SONG (Stavros Niarchos)
DARK BLUE, LIGHT BLUE CROSS SASHES, STRIPED SLEEVES, WHITE CAP1985 VANLANDINGHAM (Loblolly Stable)
YELLOW, CHOCOLATE DIAGONAL QUARTERS, YELLOW SLEEVES, BROWN HOOP1986 LIEUTENANT’S LARK (Lowell T. Stevens)
ORANGE, TURQUOISE CROSS SASHES, TURQUOISE BARS on SLEEVES, ORANGE CAP1987 LE GLORIEUX (Mrs Werner Wolf)
LIGHT BLUE, ORANGE SLEEVES and CAP1988 SUNSHINE FOREVER (Darby Dan Farm)
FAWN BROWN SLEEVES, FAWN CAP, BROWN VISOR1991 LEARIVA (Thierry Van Zuylen)
RED, WHITE CHEVRONS, WHITE SLEEVES, QUARTERED CAP1992 ZOMAN (Prince Fahd Salman)
DARK GREEN, DARK GREEN CAP1994 PARADISE CREEK (Masayuki Nishiyama)
YELLOW, PURPLE HOOPS, WHITE SLEEVES and CAPMay 28, 2011 at 19:04 #357691Thanks for the updates – appreciated.
I think you’ve thrown the de Rivaud colours at me previously – the only reason I didn’t take it off my "to find" list was because it looks like there may have been three de Rivaud brothers – may have shared silks which would be handy !
Re Prince Aly Khan , I’ve seen the green , red sash before – probably on the initial French postings you made Slewman. What may be confusing me is when Petite Etoile won the 1959 Oaks I think the owner was given as Prince Aly & Lester wore the chocolate & green hoops. Another variation between countries do you reckon ?
May 29, 2011 at 00:53 #357715I’m not sure if I have mentioned this in a previous posting but in Britain and Ireland back in ‘the old days’ only one owner was mentioned in the race card. In Petite Etoile’s case she was officially owned by H.H. The Aga Khan and Prince Aly Khan (father and son) but the race card stated she was owned by Prince Aly Khan but raced in his father’s silks (Green and chocolate hoops).
May 29, 2011 at 17:47 #357812Isinglass, sorry I may have put you away.
You are right, there were multiple de Rivauds.
The owner of Motrico (Vte Max de Rivaud) did have the jacket as stated but his cap was white.
However these silks appear to have been registered in 1940.
In 1930 his silks were Blanche, pois et m. bleus, t. blanche – so white, blue spots and sleeves and cap.
However my Longchamp magazine from 1991 does depict Motrico’s jockey in a caricature for 1932 in the Wite/Red version with a white cap.
I wonder if the blue ones were his "second colours"?
May 30, 2011 at 10:27 #357904Hi folks , thanks for the info – have just seen a picture of an old painting of 1933 Prix Reiset on google – white red spots slvs & cap – haven’t found that it was a Rivaud horse so maybe forced to be blue and white until a later date (were they waiting for someone to die maybe ? nice thought ! )
Slewman – 1956 Washington International Master Boing Andre Lombard orange white x belts ( french colours anyway ) got them when finding him for 1946 French 2000 Pactole.
also one that was missing earlier – 1963 French 1000 Altissima Mme N Tuan red white cross of lorraine & slve red cap.
will post French 2000 & Royal Oak then that’s me done unless we get tempted by something else ?!?
I.
May 30, 2011 at 10:32 #357910French 2000 Guineas – these supplement Slewman’s posting on Page 13 of the thread.
2011 TIN HORSE Marquessa de Moratalla red distinguishing white sash pale green cap
1974 MOULINES J Kashiyama black light blue hooped slvs light blue cap
1973 KALAMOUN H.H. Aga Khan green red epaulettes
1972 RIVERMAN Mme Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap
1971 ZUG WR Hawn cerise & white stripes black cap
1970 CARO Countess Batthyany blue orange slvs black cap
1969 DON II M. D Wildenstein blue light blue cap
1968 ZEDDAAN H.H. Aga Khan green red epaulettes
1967 BLUE TOM Mme PAB Widener red & white stripes black cap
1966 SOLEIL Baron G de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1965 CAMBREMONT J Bouchara yellow grey armlets & cap
1964 NEPTUNUS Mme J Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap
1963 RELKO F Dupre grey pink cap
1962 ADAMASTOR Mme A Magnus blue white seams & cap
1961 RIGHT ROYAL V Mme J Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap
1960 MINCIO Martin Lehmann pink purple stars
1959 THYMUS Mme A Plesch light blue red spots
1958 PRES DE FEU J Schneider HELP
1957 TYRONE J Puerari white dark green slvs qtd cap
1956 BUISSON ARDENT H.H. Aga Khan chocolate & green hoops chocolate cap
1955 KLAIRON M Fabiani white orange cap
1954 COTE D’OR II
1953 COBALT Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1952 GUERSANT Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1951 FREE MAN Jean Stern white light blue stars black cap
1950 TANTIEME F Dupre grey pink cap
1949 AMOUR DRAKE Leon Volterra white red hoops on body
1948 RIGOLO Henry Lecerf french grey blue slvs & cap
1947 TOURMENT Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body
1946 PACTOLE Andre Lombard orange white X belts
1945 MISTRAL Leon Volterra white red hoops on body
1944 PRINCE BIO Mme Celestine Herbline brown green spots , slvs & cap
1943 DOGAT Jean Couturie black & white diamonds white slvs black cap
1942 HEXTON Robert Debray black orange hoop on body
1941 PANIPAT
1940 DJEBEL Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1939 MAC KANN
1938 GASPILLAGE Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap
1937 DRAP D’OR Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap
1936 DAVOUT M. Vagliano HELP
1935 KANT Georges Wildenstein blue light blue cap
1934 BRANTOME Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1933 RODOSTO Princess de Lucinge orange and yellow hoops orange slvs yellow cap
1932 LE BECAU
1931 INDUS Edward Esmond white blue slvs yellow cap
1930 XANDOVER Andre Schwob white red x belts & cap
1929 VATOUT Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel
1928 DARK LANTERN II Boyd Davis HELP
1927 FITERARI Paul Moulines HELP
1926 ASTERUS Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1925 FARAWAY Paul Moulines HELP
1924 TAPIN EE Ambatielos light blue white stars & cap
1923 SIR GALLAHAD III Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel
1922 MONT BLANC Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1921 LE TRAQUET Jefferson-Davis Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel
1920 PENDENNIS A K. Macomber red & white stripes red slvs white cap
1919 MCKINLEY William K Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap
1918 NO RACE
1917 NO RACE
1916 NO RACE
1915 NO RACE1914 LISTMAN Léon Olry-Roederer HELP
1913 DAGOR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1912 DE VIRIS Alexandre Aumont white green cap
1911 LORD BORGOYNE Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1910 SIFFLET Baron Maurice de Rothschild dark blue yellow braid seams & cap
1909 VERDUN Baron Maurice de Rothschild dark blue yellow braid seams & cap
1908 MONITOR Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1907 OUADI HALFA Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1906 EIDER Duc de Gramont red yellow hoops on body
1905 VAL D’OR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1904 GOUVERNANT Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1903 VINICIUS Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1902 RETZ Camille Blanc orange blue cap
1901 CHERI Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap
1900 GOVERNOR Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1899 PERTH II Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap
1898 RODILARD Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap
1897 INDIAN CHIEF Henri Say HELP
1896 ARREAU Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1895 LAUNAY Henri Say HELP
1894 BEAUJOLAIS Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1893 LE NICHAM II Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1892 FRA ANGELICO Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1891 LE HARDY Camille Blanc orange blue cap
1890 HEAUME Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1889 PHLEGETHON Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1888 REYEZUELO Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1887 BRIO Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1886 GAMIN Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1885 XAINTRAILLES Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1884 ARCHIDUC Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap
1883 REGAIN Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap
1882 BARBE BLEUE Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1881 PROMETHEE Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1880 LE DESTRIER Auguste Staub pink black cap
1879 ZUT Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1878 CLEMENTINE Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1877 FONTAINEBLEAU Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1876 ENGUERRANDE Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1875 SAINT CYR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1874 NOVATEUR Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap
1873 SIRE Major Fridolin white light blue cap
1872 REVIGNY Paul Aumont white green cap
1871 NO RACE
1870 VALOIS Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1869 CONSUL Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1868 GOUVERNAIL 12th Duke of Hamilton cerise french grey slvs & cap
1867 NICOLET
1866 PUEBLA Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1865 GONTRAN Major Fridolin white light blue cap
1864 BARONELLA Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1863 STENTOR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1862 STRADELLA Count Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1861 ISABELLA Baron Leon Niviere white light blue cap
1860 GUSTAVE Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1859 BAKALOUM Hippolyte Mosselman green orange cap
1858 BROCOLI Count de Roederer blue & yellow stripes yellow cap
1857 FLORIN Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1856 NAT C LeClercq green red cap
1855 MONARQUE Alexandre Aumont white green cap
1854 NANCY Mr Martinson dark green black cap
1853 MOUSTIQUE Count de Hedouville white black cap
1852 BOUNTY Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1851 FIRST BORN M. Latache de Fay blue white cap
1850 SAINT GERMAIN Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1849 EXPERIENCE Baron Nathaniel de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1848 GAMBETTI Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1847 TRONQUETTE Celestin de Pontalba HELP
1846 PHILIP SHAH Celestin de Pontalba HELP
1845 COMMODOR NAPIER Prince Marc de Beauvau red
1844 NO RACE
1843 NO RACE1842 ANNETTA Baron James de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1841 FIAMMETTA Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1840 GIGES Duc d’Orleans red blue cap
cheers
I.May 30, 2011 at 10:43 #357916French St Leger / Prix Royal Oak (dead heat 1990)
2010 GENTOO Serge Tripier-Mondancin red black slvs & cap
2009 ASK Patrick J. Fahey blue green slvs red cap
2008 YEATS Magnier / Nagle dark blue
2007 ALLEGRETTO Cheveley Park Stud red white sash blue cap
2006 MONTARE George Strawbridge white green hoop on body
2005 ALCAZAR Repard / Melrose et al. dark green yellow hoop & armlets check cap
2004 WESTERNER Ecurie Wildenstein blue light blue cap
2003 WESTERNER Ecurie Wildenstein blue light blue cap
2002 MR DINOS Constantine Shiacolas yellow mauve spots on body & cap
2001 VINNIE ROE Sheridan / Balzarini dark blue yellow stars on body halved slvs yellow cap
2000 AMILYNX Jean-Luc Lagardère grey pink cap
1999 AMILYNX Jean-Luc Lagardère grey pink cap
1998 TIRAAZ HH Aga Khan IV green red epaulettes
1997 EBADIYLA HH Aga Khan IV green red epaulettes
1996 RED ROSES STORY Corine Barande-Barbe blue light blue chevrons on slvs light blue cap
1995 SUNSHACK Khalid Abdullah green pink epaulettes and cap white slvs
1994 MOONAX Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap
1993 RAINTRAP Khalid Abdullah green pink epaulettes and cap white slvs
1992 ASSESSOR Bjorn E. Nielsen black yellow cap
1991 TURGEON George Strawbridge white green hoop on body
1990 BRAASHEE Maktoum Al Maktoum royal blue white chevron light blue cap
1990 INDIAN QUEEN Sir Gordon Brunton orange maroon hoop & armlets black & orange qtd cap
1989 TOP SUNRISE Charles E. Schmidt HELP
1988 STAR LIFT Daniel Wildenstein blue light blue cap
1987 ROYAL GAIT Manuel Pereira-Arias green & light blue stripes green slvs & cap
1986 EL CUITE Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap
1985 MERSEY Daniel Wildenstein blue light blue cap
1984 AGENT DOUBLE Jacques Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap
1983 OLD COUNTRY Mrs O. Abegg red & white check white slvs & cap
1982 DENEL Mrs Salomon Nathan green light green stripe & cap
1981 ARDROSS Charles St. George black white chevron hoop & cap
1980 GOLD RIVER Jacques Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap
1979 NINISKI Lady Beaverbrook brown green x belts & cap
1978 BRAVE JOHNNY Mireille Darc HELP
1977 REX MAGNA Mrs Jean Couturié black & white diamonds white slvs black cap
1976 EXCELLER Nelson Bunker Hunt green & light green check light green slvs white cap
1975 HENRI LE BALAFRE C. Puerari white dark green slvs qtd cap
1974 BUSIRIS Nelson Bunker Hunt green & light green check light green slvs white cap
1973 LADY BERRY Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1972 PLEBEN Baron de Redé orange white slvs black cap
1971 BOURBON Germaine Wertheimer blue white seams , slvs & cap
1970 SASSAFRAS Arpad Plesch light blue red spots
1969 LE CHOUAN Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body
1968 DHAUDEVI Mme G Courtois orange yellow slvs black cap
1967 SAMOS III Comtesse M Batthyany blue orange slvs black cap
1966 VASCO DE GAMA M Fabiani white orange cap
1965 RELIANCE Francoise Dupre grey pink cap
1964 BARBIERI Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1963 RELKO Francoise Dupre grey pink cap
1962 SICILIAN PRINCE G Len HELP
1961 MATCH Francoise Dupre grey pink cap
1960 PUISSANT CHEF H Aubert black red slvs yellow cap
1959 VAMOUR Mme L Volterra white red hoops on body
1958 WALLABY Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body
1957 SCOT Mme Cinco Del Duca blue white cross of lorraine slvs & cap
1956 ARABIAN R Beaumonte green white stripe & slvs qtd cap
1955 MACIP Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1954 SICA BOY Mme J Cochery green white slvs & cap green armlets
1953 BUISSON D’OR Georges Wildenstein blue light blue cap
1952 FEU DU DIABLE P Duboscq red white seams red cap
1951 STYMPHALE Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1950 PAN E Constant white black hoop & armlets
1949 CIEL ETOILE Baron Guy de Rothschild dark blue yellow cap
1948 SPOONEY Comte R de Rivaud white red spots & slvs white cap
1947 TOURMENT Geoffroy de Waldner white black hoop on body
1946 SOUVERAIN F R Schmitt white dark blue star & cap
1945 CARACALLA Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1944 SAMARITAIN Robert Debray black orange hoop on body
1943 VERSO II Count Hubert de Chambure white blue cap
1942 TIFINAR Marcel Boussac orange grey cap
1941 LE PACHA Philippe Gund white green hoop on body
1940 NO RACE
1939 NO RACE1938 ÉCLAIR AU CHOCOLAT Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1937 VICTRIX JE Widener red & white stripes black cap
1936 FANTASTIC Jean Stern white light blue stars black cap
1935 BOKBUL Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1934 BRANTOME Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1933 JUMBO J-D Cohn cerise black cap gold tassel
1932 LAEKEN Marquis de Llano HELP
1931 DEIRI Alexandre Aumont white green cap
1930 TAICOUN James Hennessy sea green orange sash
1929 CALANDRIA Edouard Martinez de Hoz yellow white slvs black cap
1928 CACAO Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1927 FITERARI Paul Moulines HELP
1926 BIRIBI Simon Guthmann white brown slvs & cap
1925 PRIORI Gérard de Chavagnac white black seams & cap
1924 UGANDA Edouard Kann light blue black cap
1923 FILIBERT DE SAVOIE Cesare Ranucci dark green black cap
1922 KEROR Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1921 KSAR Mrs Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1920 EMBRY Gustave Wattinne cerise light blue cap
1919 STEARINE Baron Edouard de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1918 NO RACE
1917 NO RACE
1916 NO RACE
1915 NO RACE
1914 NO RACE1913 BRULEUR Evremond de Saint-Alary maroon and yellow stripes
1912 GORGORITO MJ San-Miguel HELP
1911 COMBOURG Frank Jay Gould HELP
1910 REINHART William K. Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap
1909 AVEU Alexandre Aumont white green cap
1908 MEDEAH Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1907 ANEMONE II Edmond Veil-Picard HELP
1906 MAINTENON William K. Vanderbilt white black armlets & cap
1905 CLYDE Edmond Veil-Picard HELP
1904 MACDONALD II Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap
1903 TARQUATO TASSO
1902 FER Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1901 JACOBITE Jacques de Brémond cerise white hooped slvs white cap
1900 IVOIRE Jacques de Brémond cerise white hooped slvs white cap
1899 PERTH Maurice Caillault gold blue slvs & cap
1898 LE ROI SOLEIL Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1897 CHAMBERTIN Jean Prat brown orange slvs white cap
1896 CHAMPAUBERT Adolphe Abeille HELP
1895 BOMBON Albert Menier HELP
1894 GOUVERNAIL Edmond Blanc orange blue cap
1893 RAMLEH Achille Fould red
1892 CHENE ROYAL Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1891 BERENGER Henri Say HELP
1890 ALICANTE Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1889 POURTANT Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1888 GALAOR Auguste Lupin black gold braid red cap
1887 BAVARDE Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1886 GAMIN Michel Ephrussi dark blue
1885 ESCARBOUCLE Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1884 ARCHIDUC Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap
1883 STOCKHOLM Auguste Staub pink black cap
1882 CLIO Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap
1881 PERPLEXITE Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap1880 BEAUMINET Claude-Joachim Lefèvre blue white & red horizontal thirds blue cap
1879 ZUT Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1878 INVAL Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1877 JONGLEUR Comte Gustave de Juigné red & orange hoops black cap
1876 KILT Baron Alphonse de Rothschild dark blue & yellow hoops yellow cap
1875 PERPLEX Baron Arthur de Schickler white cerise slvs & cap
1874 MIGNONETTE Edouard Fould yellow & black hoops black cap
1873 BOIARD Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap
1872 BARBILLON 12th Duke of Hamilton cerise french grey slvs & cap
1871 NO RACE
1870 NO RACE1869 CLOTHO Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap
1868 NELUSCO Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1867 PATRICIEN Henri Delamarre brown red slvs black cap
1866 ETOILE FILANTE H Lunel light blue
1865 GLADIATEUR Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1864 FILLE DE L’AIR Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
1863 LA TOUCQUES Alexander Montgomery tartan yellow slvs & cap
1862 SOUVENIR M. Robin red blue cap
1861 PALESTRO Frédéric de Lagrange blue red slvs & cap
phew !!
May 31, 2011 at 11:44 #358053Isinglass, a true labour lof love, many thanks.
Thought the other day of the dramatic deviations in silk pattern descriptions in English and US racing. I came up with these:
British: Chevron
US: Triangular panel, V sashBritish: Diabolo
US: Triangular quartersBritish: Checks
US: BlocksBritish: Disc
US: BallBritish: Cross belts
US: Cross sashesBritish: Armlets
US: Hoop on sleeves, band on sleevesBritish: Hoop
US: Belt, HoopBritish: Spots
US: DotsBritish: Stripe
US: PanelMay 31, 2011 at 12:30 #358056The inconsistency in American silks continues to puzzle me!
I was checking out the colours of Midnight Interlude, winner of this years Santa Anita Derby.
If you look at the silks on Racing Post and Horseracingnation they are Cerise/Pink, Light Green "Z", Light Green Spots on sleeves, Quartered Cap:
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_ … _id=122655
http://www.horseracingnation.com/horse/ … _Interlude
However photographic evidence shows that at Santa Anita there was no "Z" on the front of the jacket. There were light green spots, bit also turquoise cuffs, and the cap was yellow cerise and green quarters, finished off with a green pom pom!!
http://jmnandersonarchives.blogspot.com … rsons.html
http://newfinmysoup.blogspot.com/2011/0 … roses.html
Also, Slewman, am I right in thinking that for the Washington DC International the three Bunker Hunt winners wore a white cap in your list because they were trained in Europe as opposed to the Green Cap worn, for instance, by Exceller in the 1978 JCGP when he was trained in America by Charlie Wittingham?
June 1, 2011 at 05:42 #358122The Arnold Zetcher silks for Midnight Interlude is definately dots on front and a chartreuse Z on back, also cuffs on the sleeves seem to be teal with three colours (pink, chartreuse and teal) on a quartered-type cap. Although the description of the silks in race programs are Pink, Chartreuse ‘Z’, Chartreuse dots on sleeves, Pink and Chartreuse cap. I would say a fair description of them would be PINK, CHARTREUSE DOTS ON FRONT, CHARTREUSE ‘Z’ ON BACK, CHARTREUSE DOTS ON SLEEVES, PINK, CHARTREUSE AND TEAL CAP.
Nelson Bunker Hunt’s three winners were all trained in France by Maurice Zilber and have three of the racecards (Youth, Nobiliary and Dahlia carrying a white cap).
Cheers
June 1, 2011 at 10:53 #358156Thanks Slew,
I love the idea someone is able to include the colour of a Liqueur in their silks in the States!
Going back to your different terminology between US and UK colours, I noticed a card with the legendary Calumet colours on them the other day.
They refer to "blue bars" on the sleeves.
I also notice the Glen Riddle amd Harbour View Farm ones did this too. Whereas on the Allertons UK site they refer to "2 Hoops".
June 1, 2011 at 11:19 #358162Bars on sleeves usually means two hoops, ala affirmed and alydar but the term bars in the 20’s 30s 40s and 50’s also included hoops on sleeves, another terminology. (i left that one out of my list three posts earlier).
June 2, 2011 at 23:12 #358506Somewhat topically I thought I would look at my Coronation Cup Gaps.
I think I may have covered some before so apologies, but any help as ever is greatly appreciated:
1903 – Valanza – E Heinemann
1907/8 – The White Knight – T Y L Kirkwood
1910 – St Martin – L Winans
1923 – Condover – Mrs A Bendir
1949 – Beau Sabreur – A B Macnaughton
1953 – Zucchero – G RollsCheers
June 4, 2011 at 08:05 #358752ENJOY DERBY DAY, I KNOW I WILL!!
June 5, 2011 at 14:39 #3590711923 – Condover – Mrs A Bendir LILAC, SALMON slvs, collar and cap (RUFFS 1948)
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