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Isinglass, quite a super performance on your part. A lot of time and trouble went into all that. But very helpful and thank you for sharing your info. A lot of the older colours I do not have. Great job!!!!!
A sidelight to the Oaks colours, I noticed 1939 Oaks winner SUPERBE owned by the Duchess of Marlborough. I have a jpeg of her husband the Duke of Marlborough’s silks and they were Nigger Brown, Crimson striped Sleeves, Crimson Cap. Obviously that type of colour brown would be unacceptable in today’s world.
I’ll confess ……….. her’s were also described in the same way but I chickened out.
Somewhere in the Irish one’s I’ll post later , there’s a colour described as "shot" brown.
now without lowering the tone ( too late came the cry ) , I presume it’s a specific shade – and not a typo on someone’s behalf !
Keep smiling & searching.
I.
Here’s a reason to oppose closing libraries. Earlier today I was reading a history of York & Doncaster racecourses in the local library – by J Fairfax Blakeborough.
Great section detailing all Legers run up to late 1940’s and it also lists the colours for some of them – that’s where I got the brown striped sleeves for Jeddah ; we were discussing black or brown a while ago.
Anyway …… remember a little while ago we were discussing Caligula 1920 Leger winner owned by Mathras Goculdas. Said his colours were cherry & black hoops but British Pathe website showed the jockey in a solid colour with striped sleeves.
Just before the Leger , Caligula was sold by Lord Wilton to Clarence Hailey who bought him on behalf of Goculdas ( who couldn’t leave India to watch his horses in England due to restrictions of his caste ).
In Ruffs Guide 1921 – Mr C Hailey Orange Black & White striped slvs Orange cap.
What do you reckon ? Even in black & white it looks good !!
Cheers
I.that’s where I got the brown striped sleeves for Jeddah ; we were discussing black or brown a while ago.
I.
So Isinglass, its brown not blac stipes? Brilliant research as ever.
The Goucaldas find is remarkable. Between us all on here there must be a book!
that’s where I got the brown striped sleeves for Jeddah ; we were discussing black or brown a while ago.
I.
So Isinglass, its brown not blac stipes? Brilliant research as ever.
The Goucaldas find is remarkable. Between us all on here there must be a book!
Oh, and by the way shame on the people currently working at Doncaster racecourse as I asked them precisely the same question recently but to no avail.
I’ll be quite honest with you, a book is not a crazy idea as it seems. I would say without any reservation no one has done a book (bar Ruffs of course) that would have the major topic as race colours. Every race club in the English speaking world would have one in their offices ……………….then the plan is world domination, heh, heh!!
I have exhausted all my available resources and still cannot find the 1867/8 Leger winners Achievement and Formosa. I dont suppose anyone has these do they?
This is what I’ve got :-
1868 Formosa William Graham green black sash
1867 Achievement Mark Pearson black scarlet chevronsTaken from the appendix section of Raciana that lists winners & colours of the classics up to 1889.
Also , can verify Graham as he owned Gamos , Oaks 1870 , and I’ve seen an illustration that backs it up.
I.
I have to hang my head in shame Isinglass. I have known of Raciana since you guys posted it up on this thread, but never ventured into the appendix, settling for a word search in adobe acrobat. For some reason the word searches dont seem to venture into the appendix.
Apologies for wasting everyone’s time
Apology unnecessary – have the Irish 2000 Guineas to look at.
Lots of gaps so feel free to chip in if any owners names are familiar.
2010 CANFORD CLIFFS Heffer Syndicate, Mrs Roy & Mrs Instance orange black triple diamond on body orange cap black diamonds
2009 MASTERCRAFTSMAN Smith / Magnier / Tabor purple white seams & slvs purple cap
2008 HENRYTHENAVIGATOR Sue Magnier dark blue
2007 COCKNEY REBEL Phil Cunningham white grey slvs black stars on slvs black cap
2006 ARAAFA Al Homaizi / Al Sagar dark green gold stars on slvs
2005 DUBAWI Godolphin royal blue
2004 BACHELOR DUKE Exors of Duke of Devonshire straw
2003 INDIAN HAVEN Gleeson / Smith / Conway blue whites stars , slvs & cap
2002 ROCK OF GIBRALTAR Ferguson / Magnier red white stars on slvs white cap red star
2001 BLACK MINNALOUSHE Sue Magnier dark blue
2000 BACHIR Godolphin royal blue
1999 SAFFRON WALDEN Sue Magnier dark blue pink & dark blue qtd cap
1998 DESERT PRINCE Lucayan Stud black white chevron hoop & cap
1997 DESERT KING Michael Tabor blue orange disc striped slvs & cap
1996 SPINNING WORLD Niarchos Family dark blue l blue X striped slvs white cap
1995 SPECTRUM Lord Weinstock light blue yellow & white check cap
1994 TURTLE ISLAND Robert Sangster green blue slvs white cap green spots
1993 BARATHEA Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap
1992 RODRIGO DE TRIANO Robert Sangster green blue slvs white cap green spots
1991 FOURSTARS ALLSTAR Richard Bomze light blue white yolk & slvs ( confirmation anyone ? )
1990 TIROL John Horgan white brown slvs hooped cap
1989 SHAADI Sheikh Mohammed maroon white slvs & star on cap
1988 PRINCE OF BIRDS Robert Sangster green blue slvs white cap green spots
1987 DON’T FORGET ME James Horgan cerise black sash striped cap
1986 FLASH OF STEEL Bertram Firestone green white diamond frame diamond check slvs green cap
1985 TRIPTYCH Alan Clore light blue purple & light blue halved slvs
1984 SADLER’S WELLS Robert Sangster green blue slvs white cap green spots
1983 WASSL Ahmed Al Maktoum yellow black epaulettes
1982 DARA MONARCH Mrs L. Browne dark blue green hoop armlets & cap
1981 KINGS LAKE Mrs Jean-Pierre Binet dark green black hooped slvs & cap
1980 NIKOLI 3rd Earl of Iveagh terra cotta black seams qtd cap
1979 DICKENS HILL Mrs Jean-Pierre Binet dark green black hooped slvs & cap
1978 JAAZEIRO Robert Sangster green blue slvs white cap green spots
1977 PAMPAPAUL H Paul blue & yellow stripes yellow cap blue hoop
1976 NORTHERN TREASURE A. D. Brennan HELP
1975 GRUNDY Carlo Vittadini dark blue yellow hoop armlets & spots on cap
1974 FURRY GLEN P. McGrath green red seams & cap
1973 SHARP EDGE Jakie Astor light blue pink sash
1972 BALLYMORE Meg Mullion white red collar & cuffs tartan cap
1971 KING’S COMPANY Bertram Firestone green white diamond frame diamond check slvs green cap
1970 DECIES Nelson Bunker Hunt green & light green check light green slvs white cap
1969 RIGHT TACK J. R. Brown turquoise black V and cuffs yellow slvs yelow and black qtd cap
1968 MISTIGO F Feeney HELP
1967 ATHERSTONE WOOD S O’Flaherty HELP1966 PAVEH P Widener red & white stripes black cap
1965 GREEN BANNER Bert Kerr red black hoop & armlets black cap red hoop
1964 SANTA CLAUS John Ismay black gold star green hooped slvs green cap
1963 LINACRE Lord Ennisdale mauve black slvs red & black qtd cap would like confirmation of these if possible
1962 ARCTIC STORM Mrs EM Carroll green green & purple qtd cap
1961 LIGHT YEAR T Hallinan HELP1960 KYTHNOS ER More O’Ferrall green gold braid & stars on cap gold tassel
1959 EL TORO C Kline HELP
1958 HARD RIDDEN Sir Victor Sassoon peacock blue and old gold hoops gold slvs blue cap
1957 JACK KETCH Mrs M Annesley HELP
1956 LUCERO G Oldham chocolate & white hoops white cap
1955 HUGH LUPUS Lady Ursula Vernon HELP
1954 ARCTIC WIND Mrs JH Thursby brown light blue slvs hooped cap
1953 SEA CHARGER Bert Kerr red black hoop & armlets black cap red hoop
1952 D C M Mrs JH Thursby brown light blue slvs hooped cap
1951 SIGNAL BOX FW Dennis blue & white halved red slvs & peak on cap
1950 MIGHTY OCEAN Dick Duggan HELP
1949 SOLONAWAY
1948 BEAU SABREUR AB MacNaughton HELP
1947 GRAND WEATHER
1946 CLARO H.H Aga Khan III chocolate & green hoops chocolate cap
1945 STALINO
1944 GOOD MORNING1944 SLIDE ON Dermot McCalmont scarlet & red quartered white cap
1943 THE PHOENIX FS Myerscough pink & white quarters
1942 WINDSOR SLIPPER Joseph McGrath green red seams & cap
1941 KHOSRO Sir Percy Loraine white black hoop on body black cap
1940 TEASEL
1939 CORNFIELD1938 NEARCHUS Sir Percy Loraine white black hoop on body black cap
1937 PHIDEAS Sir Victor Sassoon peacock blue and old gold hoops gold slvs blue cap
1936 HOCUS POCUS
1935 MUSEUM Sir Victor Sassoon peacock blue and old gold hoops gold slvs blue cap
1934 CARIFF Sir Thomas Dixon orange maroon slvs yellow cap
1933 CANTEENER C Clerney HELP
1932 LINDLEY Capt. Dunne HELP
1931 DOUBLE ARCH
1930 GLANNARG
1929 SALISBURY1928 BAYTOWN Sir Charles Hyde white gold diamond hooped slvs white cap
1927 FOURTH HAND Dermot McCalmont scarlet & red quartered white cap
1926 EMBARGO Maharaja of Rajpipla lilac cream sash qtd cap
1925 ST DONAGH Coyle HELP
1924 GRAND JOY Lord Glanely black red white & blue sash & hooped cap
1923 SOLDUMENO D Sullivan light blue white sash qtd cap
1922 SPIKE ISLAND Capt G Loder yellow blue slvs black cap
1921 SOLDENNIS CL MacKean HELP
Hello Isinglass
1991 Irish 2000 Guineas winner Fourstars Allstar was a US horse trained in America by an Irishman (I think his name was Leo O’Brien).
Colours were LIGHT BLUE, BROWN STAR, TWO BROWN CHEVRONS ON SLEEVES, LIGHT BLUE CAP.
Cheers1985 TRIPTYCH owned by Alan Clore was LIGHT BLUE, LIGHT BLUE AND MAUVE HALVED SLEEVES. (From 1985 English 1000 Guineas race card).
I notice the Bunker Hunt colours corpping up a few times in the Irish lists.
His colours in the USA are the same jacket but a different cap. I seem to have conflicting information about the actual colour of his racing colours’ cap io the US – it is either light green or dark green but I am yet to have definitive evidence which one is which, though – the 1978 JCGC footage attached seems to suggest it is dark green, though the racecards of the time conflict with this – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFr6N2l … AE2DC87AFE.
Can anyone help please.
Hi again
A couple of colours I need clarification on.
Pharly, runner up to Blushing Groom in the 1977 Poulains before winning the Moulin in the same year. Owned by A Blasco.
Also, the 1984 Moulin winner was owned by "P S Niarchos" who I presume is a son of Stavros Niarchos. I have a racecard which shows Dactylographer to be owned by P S Niarchos but this shows the colors as identical to Stavros’ ones. However an admittedly small photo of him winning in the 1984 Timeform Racehorses Annual seems to suggest a dark cap is involed.
Many thanks in advance
Mr Antonio Blasco, owner of Pharly, colours are LIGHT BLUE, YELLOW CROSS BELTS, YELLOW CAP
Mr Phillip S. Niarchos, owner of Dactylographer, colours are DARK BLUE, LIGHT BLUE CROSS BELTS, STRIPED SLEEVES, RED CAP.
I’ve seen Bunker Hunt’s US colours with a dark green cap and a light green cap. I strongly suggest you toss a coin because as i said in a posting months back, the US racing authorities are not as strict on cap colours as other countries.
Cheers
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