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The vagaries of breeding – his 4yo half brother by War Front, called Absolute Ruler, was beaten 35L in a Newton Abbot selling handicap hurdle 12 days ago!
Visually impressive but take him out of the race and it is poor Dewhurst.
‘He could be our Frankel’ was the comment afterwards…….or he could be Air Force Blue or Pinatubo or Native Trail. A lot can (and generally does) happen from 2 to 3 but that said (and with connections continued hyperbole firmly put to one side) you can’t fault the horse’s performances to date.
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“Performance-wise Frankel never really showed what he could do when a two year old.
If I remember rightly he was only joint top-rated by Timeform, although they did have a belief he’d make an absolutely exceptional three year old”.Frankel’s Doncaster 13L and 17L beating of a subsequent Prix Marcel Boussac 3rd and a 90 rated performer on just his second start, his jaw dropping 10L Royal Lodge demolition of a future Derby runner up, Irish Derby/US G1 winner and even his Dewhurst run where he pulled Queally’s arms out for half the race before brushing aside some much better 2 yr olds then COT faced today were clearly indicators of what Frankel could do as a 2 yr old.
He was joint top-rated as a 2yr old mainly because Dream Ahead’s 9L Middle Park win was probably overrated and led to the massively over hyped three way so called ‘juvenile race of the century’ showdown in the Dewhurst (which never materialised as Dream Ahead and Saamidd both bombed out in the race).
From “Thoroughbred Daily News” on City Of Troy and the Triple Crown:
“‘It’s what everyone wants to do,’ said Magnier. ‘It’s all about the Derby, it’s all about the Triple Crown.'”
He added, “Put it this way, we won’t stop trying to win the Triple Crown.”
If City Of Troy were to win the first two Classics, there would appear to be little doubt about him heading to Town Moor in September.
I loved Sir Ivor and have seen many since and City Of Troy is the real deal for me. He is different from Frankel who, with that bull like build, seemed to brutalize the air in front of him to reach the post. In all three races City Of Troy has looked to me like he was only really getting going as he passed the post. Never seen another do that.
Obviously with the proviso he trains on could well be up there with obriens best. Wasn’t a strong dewhurst by any stretch but the fact he still won going away on poor ground suggests a decent ground guineas will see him at his best. I hope he does train on as he is so strong at the end of his races. A superb prospect.
City Of Troy 12/1 for Triple Crown – PP. Impossible to quantify risk, but if he has a healthy season and wins the Guineas (about 2/5 I’d say) he’ll be 4/7 on Derby Day. If he wins that in style he’ll go to the post at Doncaster at 2/5 or shorter. The ‘minus risk’ price is 2/1 the treble.
Strongly advise you to take this with Paddy Power online. The Coolmore boys always wanted to win The Triple Crown and are already talking about it today. Wouldn’t go mad because, as mentioned, he could turn a fetlock or have a heart attack between now and Doncaster next September, but he’s with the best team and they will look after like he was half a ton of diamonds.
12/1 is way too short for the triple-crown, there is a reason it is extremely difficult to achieve.
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City of Troy the horse that never sleeps
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The maximum stake Paddy Power would offer me is ten pence, so not too much danger of me going mad, Joe.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Shame about that, Ian. Regrettably, I have lost so much to them, they welcome every cent I send their way, though revenge awaits with this one – 12/1 is a mad price given how the on-the day-markets will end up. Non racing interventions aside, The Guineas should be a foregone conclusion. Derby stamina, almost assured just by the way he finishes his races, has the most solid of backups in the shape of his Oaks-winning dam, whose sire is Galileo. He’ll be very short for Epsom. After that, how many will even turn up to try to beat him at Doncaster?
John Magnier is 75 now. It looks to me as if he is starting to become preoccupied with his legacy.
A Triple Crown winner is clearly a big deal to him. The one thing he clearly wants to achieve before he dies.
I would not want to be laying much bigger than 12/1 against this horse.
Even though it is still early days, has Coolmore found Galileo’s successor in Justify?
I agree with CAS.
For most of his life Magnier couldn’t have cared less about the Triple Crown – 1m-1m2f is where the commercial breeding paydirt is and the only reason Camelot took that route was to swerve Frankel.
But you can’t take it with you and the Triple Crown is the Triple Crown.
Plenty can go wrong, injuries, training on, yet to race a yard further than 7f, let alone 1m4f or 1m6f+, but if anyone thinks 12/1 is a lousy price, they should answer Joe’s excellent question: what price would YOU pay?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"What price would I give well you are asking a poor punter who would almost definitely make a worst bookie. I base this on the record of Guineas/Derby winners in the last fifty years, three. Further compound this with adding the St Leger then to me those odd a are short, the general price for him to win the Leger is 4/1 which to me is ridiculous.
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I am still finding it hard to believe that most assume he will stay 12F let alone 14F – his dam never won further than a mile and was beaten in all three attempts at further than a mile as a three year old (failing to deliver on her G1 winning performance at 2) and while his full brother has won over 10F he was beaten over 12F at Royal Ascot (where he didn’t quite seem to see out the trip).
COT could very well be that very mature 2yr old that is head and shoulders above his current contemporaries but we all know that going from 2-3 can bring about remarkable changes to where the more backward 2 yr old types can catch up (and even surpass) those more mature types that don’t always have the same scope of improvement……..only time will tell.
For me The Boys (Magnier driven no doubt) are looking to emulate what the og O’Brien did with Nikinsky – following the Camelot failure, they have been looking for a suitable candidate ever since and prior to the start of this season, Auguste Rodin was the ‘annointed one’ and we all saw that fall flat at the first hurdle.
Personally, I wouldn’t take any price on the Triple Crown being completed (just turning up in all three races would be a great training feat in of itself) as it is without doubt one of (if not the) hardest feat to accomplish in racing…….speaking of which, I would like to take this moment to give some love to Oh So Sharp who actually did complete the Triple Crown back in 1985, which seems to have almost been forgotten about when this subject comes up.
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